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I am talking about the whole "either for or against us" method of diplomacy tied with militarism against states. The US cannot just threaten states with force, that is not where the problem lies. This is no longer the Cold War and we cannot simply say "do it our way or else..." Military threats against states do not stop the threats the US faces today. Iraq is a special case. I've said it before and I will say it again, clearly something needed to be done about Saddam but it should have been done more than a decade ago. Bush (HW) in 1991 did a perfect job of practicing good diplomacy while Bush (W) in 2003 did not practice good diplomacy. Admittedly both the US and Europe did not practice good diplomacy with name calling and the like. The problem I have with the diplomacy the US is using is that it consists of military force and there are hardly any other methods used, such as "carrot and stick" diplomacy, also there are other forms of force other than military. That is just what I can read from the foreign policy of the US. I just see Europe using other forms of diplomacy more than the US, I believe it is the way to go but only time will tell what truly works.
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Originally posted by Corbett:
Wow, this thread has gone waaaaayyyy off topic.
Yeah sorry, but I just cannot take Coulter or any extremist seriously. She never presents the story, just as Moore does. Both try to make arguments without presenting the other side. Coulter tries to present herself as a journalist but has no integrity and is really not a very good writer. She goes as low as to use Ad Hominem attacks or name calling and seems to think that Conservatives have it right and that Liberals are always wrong.
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Originally posted by Viss1:
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Originally posted by Viss1:
Originally posted by Davo:
You can't find what Coulter says from anyone other than Coulter. Rhodes usually just rattles off liberal talking points and calls it a day.
So Coulter's "jokes" are what differentiates her. Gotcha.
That's not what he said... HEY!! You qualify to be Rhodes on-air partner! You ignore the context of what you read and mis-represent the intent of the people you quote! Well done!
Please 
Both talking heads deliver the party line. Coulter happens to write more books. Saying things like "the NYT didn't cover Dale Earnhardt's death" isn't exactly earth-shattering independent political thought.
Why are you arguing with me about that. I've already said I could live without both of them (Coulter & Rhodes). My comment was specifically directed at your previous response.
Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.
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Originally posted by Wien_Sean:
The problem I have with the diplomacy the US is using is that it consists of military force and there are hardly any other methods used
Where were you in the lead up to the Iraq War?
This nouveau European model of diplomacy would work well if everyone's goal was to be a part of the European Union, but that's about it.
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Originally posted by JVT:
I will say this again though, do not, ever, underestimate the Russians...
One of the best statements in this thread. They're taking a while to get revved up, but when they do they'll have the natural resources & manpower to become a major economic force and will likely have a huge global impact.
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Originally posted by Wien_Sean:
Both try to make arguments without presenting the other side.
Why would anyone want to do this? Why would someone waste time and space in 'presenting the other side' when theirs is the one they want the reader/consumer to understand? I don't understand how some people use your angle to try to discredit someone. Michael Moore's problem was that he left out important facts of his stories and changed things when changes suited him well, not that he didn't 'present the other side'.
FWIW, I've read a couple Coulter books and found them quite informative and entertaining.
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Originally posted by TourDeForce:
My comment was specifically directed at your previous response.
In which I indicated my opinion that Coulter's "uniqueness" lies mostly in her mean-spirited jokes and satire.
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Originally posted by Viss1:
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
My comment was specifically directed at your previous response.
In which I indicated my opinion that Coulter's "uniqueness" lies mostly in her mean-spirited jokes and satire.
Fine, if that's your opinion. Your response was to a statement that made no specific note of any "jokes". You just twisted it to suit yourself.
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Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Your response was to a statement that made no specific note of any "jokes". You just twisted it to suit yourself.
The poster I was replying to made the comment that Coulter regularly exhibits independent, unique thought. I made the comment that this independent, unique thought consisted mainly of jokes and satire, not groundbreaking analysis.
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Originally posted by Viss1:
I made the comment that this independent, unique thought consisted mainly of jokes and satire, not groundbreaking analysis.
That's incorrect. The left wouldn't be so offended by and afraid of her if all she offered was 'jokes and satire'. You must look beyond the caricature of her that the media has created in order see her value to the conservative think tank.
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