kermit...please don't go alpine. I know people that have had them and they really aren't all that great. My g.f. had one and it sucked, another freind of mine had one and buttons stopped working after a little while and his amp (alpine) didn't work right either. I honestly think that the quality of sound from an alpine isn't all the great compaired to other units. You are going to be paying more for what used to be a a leading name in the industry but now is just like everyone else. But yes, sony does suck hard when it comes to car audio. I would never wish it on anyone that I know.
