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when i first started on this site. I was always told to search search search. Ok i sat for hours on end looking up information i needed to solve my question. Then 2 days later a newbie would ask the same question and he would get flamed and also answered. I was like wtf. I sat for 3 hours reading a bunch of bull$hit and i found my answer. And it took him 3 min. So i can see where veterans would get pissed about newbies getting it easy over what they had to go threw to find answers.

Now there are two sides here!

1. Why would i need to spend 3 hrs reading threw all the old archives to find a technical answer that i needed. OR just post and get it answered.

Well you can psot but posts like this piss me off!!

2. IF you have stupid questions that are like "Does an ebay chip really add horsepower" then those people deserve no acknowledgement what so ever, on these boards. I will tell you why!!

question some one would give me is??
"Well he doesn't know anythinga bout an ebay chip, that is why he is asking"?

Then i would repsond with if you don't know anything pick up a book and read for christ sake. OR do not touch $hit that you do not know anything about!! That is how little boys destroy a mans stuff.

there fore littls upid questions get annoying, but technical questions u do not get flamed for!! So agree wit hsoem flaming, but it is against forum rules!!

You know what?

The whole "searching is hard" and "magic word" excuse gets old.

I, for one (as well as countless others) have seen a post, noticed that the decription was WAY off, and so, in the middle of my reply I will put

(FOR ARCHIVE/SEARCH PURPOSES: HANG, TH< Throttle, MOOSE, IDLE, ROAR, FOGHORN)

And then sign the post, this way ANY search about the moose, even though nobody in their right mind would search for "moose", will get a result. All it takes is trying.

Yes, the questions get old.. and then some. Everyone speaks of the "vets" as if they were GIVEN this knowledge, and information. I tell you what, take note of something, here: every "vet" that you say has knowledge is also one of the "search" nazi's... (INCLUDING ME!!!) We are not telling them this to save OURSELVES time...

Its far easier to just give the answer in one post and have the problem FIXED, DONE and out of our hair, than it is to say "search", then listen to "why search", etc.. NOW we have to respond to THAT, too.. then respond to WHICH post we are trying to point them to, and follow up with HOW it works... Instead of them searching and learning all that on their OWN, and not having to have us hold their hand.

Anyone worth their salt on this board will tell you that they learned what they know through READING and research.

The FRAH concept. (FAQ's, RULES, ARCHIVES, and HOW-TO's...)
That's my new response from now on.... FRAH.. not anything else.. just "search for FRAH"... They'll find this thread, and get the point.. done.

Oh yeah.. to help:

(FOR SEARCH PURPOSES: search, searching, newbie, noob, sucks, keyword, keywords)


Ray


Ray

WOW you guys sure are getting all over heated for such a small matter! There are valid points from both sides and no one is going to give an inch.. but think of it this way, There are really not many post going up everyday so at least it gives us something to read Question or not.. Or rant about a question lol it is just a place to talk about your car and everyday life with friends that share the same passion for cars.

You would never fight face to face like this at a car meet if someone asked you what you consider a dum question becasue it can be found in the FAQ section you would just anwser him and enjoy your cold beer

ACTUALLY:

There are TONS of posts, per day, that I have to go through, read, research, and then write answers to. I hang out in (almost ONLY) troubleshooting, and the Duratec boards, and I don't know about YOU, or what YOU consider "alot", but I find it taking a lot of time to sit there and type the answers to Each and every thread (only to have the SAME QUESTION asked the next day... They didn't even have to SEARCH FOR THAT ONE!!! look down the page ONE POST on the list of threads!!!... )

See how many posts I have to my name?

I've raised it by about 1400 or so in a very short time since I have begun hanging out in TS more and more. With the exception of this, and my regional posts, that is all there really is.. That seems like a lot to me!


Ray

OK... Well Ray it seems you are a pretty good guy and very helpful to fellow members. I did not know that you spend that much time taking care of people... and I can see where it ticks you off seeing the same questions all the time. I have had many cars and on the other boards I have seen alot more posts only because the car is still in production there for more owners but not important. As you know there will be another person a month from now asking the same question.. and then another after that. It is the same on every msg board.. Nothing much can be done to stop it.

The new guys always ask before looking and that will never change.. and I will always see people giving them crap for asking these questions, it seems to be a vicious cycle of ignorance and lesson .. the member asking the question pleads ignorance and another member gives the answer along with a firm scalding the lesson. You have been a member for some time now so i am sure you have just about been asked everything from why does this blink to does duct tape really work lol

Mk,

You aren't stating that Porsche had "nothing" to do with the Duratec platform are you?

Common knowledge that they began the design process, and Ford used the design, *slightly* modified, to fit.



Ray