Thanks Capt Obvious.

My point was people do not 'see' anything happening, so they think there is no tangible threat.

With rape and murder you want the perpatrators (sp?) to know that they will get caught to stop them.

With terrorists its a different game. If you catch one of them, then the others will change their lifes around so that their system of communication and passing things can still be done successfully. That is why typically when terrorists are captured the "How" is usually very vague, and the smaller guys are not reported.

Originally posted by 99SESPORT:
Originally posted by RTStabler51:
The thing alot of people do not grasp that in the world I live in (security and intelligence) is success are not known and can not be measured. A big reason why security is over looked until something happens then its "Oh Chit we need more security!" If we could MEASURE the success the Intelligence community and Law Enforcement communites have with operations that are done daily, then something is defiantly wrong. Sure, some you can account for, but the majority of the success we (as a public or even as an access individual) will NEVER know of




Hey, you are right. We can't measure success. For example, we can't measure the success in the murder rate...WE can't measure success in the rape rate...Why? Because we don't know and could never tell when a crime is going to occur.

On the other hand, when NOTHING happens, when crime is at a ZERO rate, then success is evident. Bin Laden is hiding. # 3 has been caught. Saddam has been caught. His sons have been killed. Afghanistan is different. Iraq is different. SO MANY OTHER terrorists have been caught. It's is obvious that terrorism still exists because of the actions all across the globe, except in one place.

HERE IN THE UNITED STATES!!!

So no, we can't measure success per say, but when NOTHING has happened, we can make an estimated guess that we are doing something right...






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