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Originally posted by Jason43:
They are a very real option. I just finished up installing them on my car and will back up every good thing Stazi has said about them. Excellent build quality and absolutely no fitment issues(other than the known egr bung).



Do you have any pics or additional info on the parts you used for the EGR. Ive heard Stazi say of using heater flexpipe, but I am not sure of how it attaches. Thanks.
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Originally posted by Stazi:

I plan on putting BK's headers on this weekend, so I'll snap pics at that time, and then more once the whole thing is done.




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Looks like Weapon R sales will be competing well against msds headers..

Fellas, who cares about the name! It'll be under the car anyways!!

I will seriously invest in these headers after I recover from my near debt from SZ spending

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Originally posted by tropictour:
Originally posted by Jason43:
They are a very real option. I just finished up installing them on my car and will back up every good thing Stazi has said about them. Excellent build quality and absolutely no fitment issues(other than the known egr bung).



Do you have any pics or additional info on the parts you used for the EGR. Ive heard Stazi say of using heater flexpipe, but I am not sure of how it attaches. Thanks.
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Unfortunely, I didn't take any pics. I was too busy cursing the team of engineers that designed our engine bay. For the EGR, I used a brass swell fitting from the plumbing section of Home Depot(as recomended by MKracing), 5/8" IIRC. I cut the EGR pipe in the straight section in the middle and the fitting worked perfectly.


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Comparison pix about 2/3 down the page. These are my MSDS and Bk4293's Weapon R headers (I guess). Pix by Stazi.

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Originally posted by wa2tuff:
Comparison pix about 2/3 down the page. These are my MSDS and Bk4293's Weapon R headers (I guess). Pix by Stazi.



Oh....So you're the guy that helped start this little war we've got going on here.....


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Guys forgive me if this is a silly question. I have a '96 Mondeo V6 which has two O2 sensors in the pre cat. I replaced the cat and Y pipe with this as my old cat dies :-

http://www.spmotorsports.com/ATCcontour_exhaust_ypipes.html

Will these Weapon R headers fit my car? I read somewhere that they have a 3 bolt flange for the cat but i don't have the standard cat any more-does that mean these won't just bolt on? Whats the deal with the EGR? A friend of mine fitted MSDS headers and AFAIK he used his old cat (two bolt flange) and had no trouble with the EGR pipe??Thanks for any help.


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The weapon R's have their own y-pipe which I think is the only one you can use as they have slightly different outlet anngles than the stock headers and MSDS's. But that's OK as there y-pipe is great anyway.

You could sell the y-pipe you have and use the full WR setup.

The fact you have OBD1 can be addressed by blocking off the lower two O2 ports with short bolts. The EGR-pipe mod is an easy fix for anyone with mechanical know-how


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OK i've just leafed through a huuuuuge thread on this and answered one question-looking at the opictures it seems you MUST use the Y pipe that comes with the headers and hence you need the correct OE cat? I suppose that's no big issue. But whats the deal with the EGR? If the EGR is different on some cars can we not get the correct EGR pipe from Ford?(as all the UIM's are the same right?!)


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Originally posted by Stazi:
The weapon R's have their own y-pipe which I think is the only one you can use as they have slightly different outlet anngles than the stock headers and MSDS's. But that's OK as there y-pipe is great anyway.

You could sell the y-pipe you have and use the full WR setup.

The fact you have OBD1 can be addressed by blocking off the lower two O2 ports with short bolts. The EGR-pipe mod is an easy fix for anyone with mechanical know-how




Thanks for that. so,i would need an OE cat-any suppliers you can suggest for a 3 bolt flange version for this? I'm still struggling to understand the EGR issue,did they balls up when fabricating these or something? Surely if the EGR pipe design was changed by Ford on later cars we could just get the EGR pipe from them? (My logic being that the EGR location on the UIM to my knowledge has not changed?) Many thanks for your input-you seem to be the man on these!!!


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