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Originally posted by svt4stv:
ive heard this argument before. its not like theyre sending home millions of dollars.
Nope, more like between $14 and $17 BILLION dollars annually, the second largest source of foreign income for Mexico after oil.
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We need to come down on this HARD. Right now the government is basically saying "well it is illegal to come here but we won't really do anything if you do."
Yes, many industries rely heavily on the use of illegal immigrants, and eliminating would drive costs up. Heaven forbid some people get off their asses and do lawn care or some farm work.
We need to reduce the supply AND demand.
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Originally posted by PackRat:
Originally posted by svt4stv:
ive heard this argument before. its not like theyre sending home millions of dollars.
Nope, more like between $14 and $17 BILLION dollars annually, the second largest source of foreign income for Mexico after oil.
do you have a source to cite for that? because i find it a little hard to believe. at best it could only be a guesstimate but that seems overly inflated, probably to to support a particular stance. 
Originally posted by Tourgasm:
Sometimes you can mess up a word so bad that spell check doens't know what the hell you're talking about.
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Originally posted by svt4stv:
Originally posted by PackRat:
Originally posted by svt4stv:
ive heard this argument before. its not like theyre sending home millions of dollars.
Nope, more like between $14 and $17 BILLION dollars annually, the second largest source of foreign income for Mexico after oil.
do you have a source to cite for that? because i find it a little hard to believe. at best it could only be a guesstimate but that seems overly inflated, probably to to support a particular stance.
http://www.patriotist.com/acarch/ac20040112b.htm
This one puts the number at $7 billion
http://www.energia.com/public_service/us_mexico_relations.asp
This puts the number at $23 billion for all of Latin America (Mexico at $9 Billion)
http://www.pbs.org/pov/pov2003/thesixthsection/special_mexican.html
Either way you look at it, it's a huge chunk of change.
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i know packrat can speak for himself but i decided to look for myself and looky what i found from the houston chronicle another one and another these i took from a google search.
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Originally posted by svt4stv:
ive heard this argument before. its not like theyre sending home millions of dollars. and remember, their economy growing is the only way to slow immigration down. they need money for their economy to grow. this outflow of cash is even comparable to the trade deficit we have with Japan  you want to talk about money leaving the country...
Ok, then let's talk about the Japanese economy.  I'm not going to take sides on this one, but Japan's economy is not as great as you might be lead to believe. By 2025, more than 27% of its population will be over 65. Yes, the GNP is second highest to the USA, but that doesn't mean they are much better off.
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Originally posted by Majisto:
Originally posted by svt4stv:
ive heard this argument before. its not like theyre sending home millions of dollars. and remember, their economy growing is the only way to slow immigration down. they need money for their economy to grow. this outflow of cash is even comparable to the trade deficit we have with Japan you want to talk about money leaving the country...
Ok, then let's talk about the Japanese economy. I'm not going to take sides on this one, but Japan's economy is not as great as you might be lead to believe. By 2025, more than 27% of its population will be over 65. Yes, the GNP is second highest to the USA, but that doesn't mean they are much better off.
who said anything about the Japanese being better off? i just mentioned the enormous trade offset we have with them.
Originally posted by Tourgasm:
Sometimes you can mess up a word so bad that spell check doens't know what the hell you're talking about.
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Originally posted by my csvt:
i know packrat can speak for himself but i decided to look for myself and looky what i found
from the houston chronicle
another one
and another
these i took from a google search.
only your second link, which does not seem like a credible source, breaks it down between illegal and legal immigrants. it says illegal immigrants are a approximately 1/3 of the source of outflowing funds. i didnt know wire transfers had little check boxes for "illegal" and "legal" for the benefit of statistics. the other link discusses those practicing this activity as coming from all over south and central america. i have met plenty of Filipinos and Africans who do this as well.
i think an even bigger issue is our american corporations sending jobs(money) out of the country, regardless of our economy.
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Originally posted by Tourgasm:
Sometimes you can mess up a word so bad that spell check doens't know what the hell you're talking about.
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Theres an article somewhere that states how much Mexicans take back to thier country and thats whats always the issue, no one in goverment ever states how much money they save because they don't file taxes so the goverment gets all that money to keep.
If you were on that side of the border, would you do whats best for you and your family?
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Originally posted by svt4stv:
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
It's good your friend is trying to support his family and all, and that is the story for many illegal immigrants. But that is part of the problem. The money he makes goes back to Mexico. It is taking money out of our economy and putting it into mexico's.
ive heard this argument before. its not like theyre sending home millions of dollars. and remember, their economy growing is the only way to slow immigration down. they need money for their economy to grow. this outflow of cash is even comparable to the trade deficit we have with Japan you want to talk about money leaving the country...
Yes as a matter of fact they are sending millions if not billions when you take them all into account. If I get raped for 35-40% of my earnings why shouldn't they.
The FACT is it cracks me up when people say that we have to help another country with their employment problems when we have employment problems of our own. Maybe we should let every single person who wants to come over and work at a sub minimum wage so that the people in this country can get screwed. Then we can deal with all the LEGAL people in this country who are losing jobs to people that are willing to work for less.
Since when did the US become the worlds savior? Espescially when it comes to the liberals who want us to support every damn country out there. Let them get there own s**t together.
Have you thought about that?
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