Originally posted by Alan Coles:
Ray where are you getting this info from?

Bondurants fleet of SVT Contours were likely run harder than any street/track driven car... One had an AccuSump while the others had the heads modified to the newer setup and larger oil pans.


Okay! GREAT! Chalk one more up to not failing... Because "they" didn't have more than one of the well-known "fixes" (if you can call them that? lol) and they didn't fail, then that must mean that our "problem" has nothing to do with driving, then.. huh? To base that result on THIS set of cars is as theorhetical as any of the clouding going on on CEG. Just because they didn't fail doesn't mean they COULDN'T fail. I still fall back to the fact that NONE of the methods are failsafes. (hell even ALL of them aren't a fail-safe).. they were running ONE method.. and I am glad they didn't fail.

Originally posted by Alan:
What specifically are you basing a reduction from 3500 to 15000-1800 being correct?
Why not 2500?



Sorry for any misunderstanding. I thought that I had brought the point across hard enough that it is entirely dynamic. The number that I stated was entirely arbitrary, and only used to show a gesture of a lower rpm.

Originally posted by Alan:
I really do feel that there is much too much unfounded theory continually swirling around about this problem being presented as fact. This unfortunately, only continues to cloud the issue. New Escape 3L's are spinning bearings and they have the new head design and larger oil pans.


Are they also running an Accusump? j/k on this one..



Originally posted by Alan:
I've never seen any evidence that most of these problems were caused by high G-load right-hand turns.


You've never seen any evidence? what does that mean, exactly? You mean that you've PERSONALLY never had a cdw fail under those conditions? or that you've never even heard of that happening? I can throw out at least two, not including my own 95LX. Ask Greg (DemonSVT) about his, as well. What about (forgive me if I get your name wrong) CSVT1999... his just did the same thing, under the same conditions. I've PERSONALLY experienced this, and if this is some "unknown" thing that we can't diagnose, then I can tell you something: I have found a secondary way of making "whatever this is" come up... take high g-load right turn.. maybe that isn't causing it, but something at the same time HAPPENS to make you have a drop in oil pressure, too. If the problem is some mysteriously clouded event, then I can understand why. I always see the turning cause failures. (maybe that's what the problem WANTS us to think... heehee..)
Originally posted by Alan:
That doesn't mean I know what the problem is

neither do I, FOR SURE..
Originally posted by Alan:
but proper diagnostic procedures need to be followed to arrive at any any legitimate conclusions.


I agree.. I donated one car already to "the cause".. care to join me?


Ray

'99 CSVT - Silver #222/276 In a constant state of blow-off euphoria.
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