Originally posted by MxRacerCamXXXL:
that's not what you said. you are generalizing for the most of the fan base from a very limited sample.
i'll re-quote you so as to spare you the time of trying to say that you never said these things.

Originally posted by Davo:
I wouldn't think anything of it if the sign didn't reflect what a large portion of the Pistons' fan base thinks.




Thanks for quoting me, because it proves exactly not what I said. I said a large portion of the fan base thinks there is a conspiracy. No, you can't change what people say so that your point is made.

There is a difference between 'large portion' and 'most'. No, I can't estimate a proportion of fans that believe in something off of just a small sample. But I can estimate the size of a group of people.

Let me know if you need any further assistance with understanding the difference between proportion and size, I'd be happy to tutor you via PM.

Originally posted by MxRacerCamXXXL:
and your analogy to racial profiling is a very obvious fallacy of questionable analogy. let me re-phrase it for you.

are most islamic terrorist arab? yes. are all arabs terrorists? no.

are most of the people who think there is an officiating conspiracy pistons fans? yes. do all (or most) piston fans think there is a conspiracy? no.

let me know if you need any further assistance with understanding philosophical logic. i'd be happy to tutor you via pm.


It's only a fallacy if misapplied, which is what you have done here. I was not making the analogy of Pistons conspiracy theorists to Arab Islamic terrorists. Rather, I was saying that since pretty much every Islamic terrorist I have encountered is Arab, it leads me to believe that a large portion of Islamic terrorists are Arab (not most, as you would like me to say in order to prove your point).

It's been a few years since I've taken logic, but I'll have to look up the specific term for changing what people say in order to make a point against them.