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Originally posted by 00SVT:
Dude, they go 7 deep. 8 if you count Eric Piatkowski (and I certainly don't. He's a friggin' hump). Every team left goes that far down their bench, and some go further. Who comes in after that?? Lawrence Funderburke?
I think their depth is best defined by who contributes on a game-by-game basis. Their leading scorer (Curry) had just under 16 points if I recall correctly. Followed very closely behind were Hinrich and Gordon. They get significant contributions from everyone on their team.
Originally posted by 00SVT:
Everyone knows who Ben Gordon is. Nobody is discounting him. But the issue here is, do they have enough to hang with the Miamis and the Detroits in the East over the course of a 7-game series? I don't think so. Hell, Gilbert Arenas had his worst game in over a month and the Bulls still had trouble pulling that one out (they might have won by 9 but it was much closer than that). Their defense didn't look all that great to me during that game. Not as bad as Washington, but by no means did they put the clamps down.
I don't think they have enough to hang with Detroit or Miami. My prediction has them stopping at Miami.
By the way, they won by 9 having missed several free throws down the stretch, so it could have easily been a 12-15 point win.
Originally posted by 00SVT:
The Bulls had a great season, and it's nice to see them get things turned around over there. I just think it's a bit early to plan the parade downtown... funny to see the first playoff trip in 7 years get everyone back on the bandwagon. 
Agreed. I've been a big Bulls fan all my life and I'm being cautious. The bandwagoners are an unfortunate part of fandom.
...but I am planning the parade for the White Sox.
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Phoenix Suns are gonna win it all
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Originally posted by ZetecNinja:
Phoenix Suns are gonna win it all
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Speaking of bandwagoners...
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Originally posted by ZetecNinja:
Phoenix Suns are gonna win it all
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Once they run into a team that focuses on defense, like Houston or San Antonio, the only thing they are going to win is a spot at the bar so they can watch San Antonio and Houston play for the Western Conference Finals.
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Originally posted by Davo:
Originally posted by ZetecNinja:
Phoenix Suns are gonna win it all
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Speaking of bandwagoners...
Just like those new Heat fanatics because of Shaq!  
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Where are all the Laker fans this year? Oh, that's right they suck this year.
Waaaaaaaa, poor fans.
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Originally posted by Davo:
I think their depth is best defined by who contributes on a game-by-game basis. Their leading scorer (Curry) had just under 16 points if I recall correctly. Followed very closely behind were Hinrich and Gordon. They get significant contributions from everyone on their team.
I don't think they're unique in that regard. Miami gets contributions from Shaq, Wade, Damon Jones, Haslem... Detroit can look to 5 guys every night... There really isn't a team left that is strictly a 2-man show. Well, maybe the Pacers. They've got 4 guys IMO on that team who can contribute heavily during the playoffs (Hinrich, Duhon, Gordon, Nocioni). Harrington and Davis, well... you never know what you'll get with them. If they have Eddy Curry for the playoffs, however, it's a different story. Having to depend on Tyson Chandler for big minutes in the frontcourt is going to be tough. Him getting in foul trouble with 2 points to his name isn't gonna fly every night.
Originally posted by Davo:
By the way, they won by 9 having missed several free throws down the stretch, so it could have easily been a 12-15 point win.
Trust me, when you're sitting in Vegas in a sportsbook and you've got the over in that game, you know FULL WELL how many shots from the line they missed. But that brings up another point: missing those free throws down the stretch isn't a good thing. Washington had too many chances to get back into that game because nobody could hit a free throw.
I don't think it's gonna be an easy road for them. I do think they'll get past Washington but Miami will be too much for them.
Anyhow, it's good to talk some NBA hoops. 
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Originally posted by 00SVT:
I don't think they're unique in that regard. Miami gets contributions from Shaq, Wade, Damon Jones, Haslem... Detroit can look to 5 guys every night... There really isn't a team left that is strictly a 2-man show. Well, maybe the Pacers. They've got 4 guys IMO on that team who can contribute heavily during the playoffs (Hinrich, Duhon, Gordon, Nocioni). Harrington and Davis, well... you never know what you'll get with them. If they have Eddy Curry for the playoffs, however, it's a different story. Having to depend on Tyson Chandler for big minutes in the frontcourt is going to be tough. Him getting in foul trouble with 2 points to his name isn't gonna fly every night.
They're not unique in that they have depth; I never said they were. Truth is, there's never been a championship team that was a 2-man show. And for you to suggest Indiana is a 2-man show is ridiculous. They've had their two best players missing for large portions of the season yet they still made the 6-seed in the playoffs. Very impressive.
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But that brings up another point: missing those free throws down the stretch isn't a good thing. Washington had too many chances to get back into that game because nobody could hit a free throw.
Right, and as bad an omen as that may seem for the Bulls, it's equally such for the Wizards. If they can't capitalize on the chances Chicago gave them, then they aren't going anywhere.
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I think the Bulls are an exciting young team, but when i go position by position through the 5 starters, this is not a single advantage for the Bulls. When you get to the bench, Gordon is probably better than anyone the Pistons have off their bench, but McDyess isn't significantly behind him. The rest of the bench goes in the Pistons favor.
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Originally posted by Davo:
And for you to suggest Indiana is a 2-man show is ridiculous. They've had their two best players missing for large portions of the season yet they still made the 6-seed in the playoffs. Very impressive.
They're a 2-man show right now... somebody forgot to tell O'Neal that the playoffs started. Now if his shoulder is injured again, forget it. They don't have a chance in hell. And let's not talk about that nasty bench. But yes, they did come back and make the playoffs (by 2 games). They're gonna need someone other than Jackson and Reggie Miller to step up if they're gonna get past Boston.
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Right, and as bad an omen as that may seem for the Bulls, it's equally such for the Wizards. If they can't capitalize on the chances Chicago gave them, then they aren't going anywhere.
Exactly. But I never said Washington was going anywhere. Matador defense and 1 and a half serviceable big men doesn't bode well for your postseason chances.
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