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Originally posted by todras: Maybe he'll change the laws on marriage & the priesthood.
FYI To do so would completely ignore the true purpose and essence of the priesthood.
Originally posted by todras: I understand the total devotion to god but maybe allowing marriage would lessen the molestation issues. Celibacy your entire life?! Crazy!
1. See above. 2. Do you think pedophiles will suddenly turn into normal individuals if they're allowed to marry?
Originally posted by todras: And another thing...the non use of birth control. Times need to change. Suit on
Nice to see all these people giving the Catholic Church expert advice.
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Originally posted by Stazi:
The Greek Orthodox Church has alowed marriage for it's preist for hundreds of years, and there have not been any problems with priests molesting kids. Obviously they understood that celebacy was not something that was humanly ideal.
I agree with that, but I think a decision like that would have to be substantiated with more than "it would be a lot easier".
I'm Catholic and would love to see them endorse birth control and allow priests to marry. The second of which would be more difficult with the centuries long traditions associated with it. If nothing else, endorse masturbation and porn...
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The Orthdox church carrried on the tradition of the disciples. They were not celebate, so the Greek believed it would be in tradition to allow their priests to take wives.
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Originally posted by Stazi: Aparently Ratzinger is HIGHLY conservative. So no acceptance of birth control, no marriage for Catholics priests and hopefully that doesn't increase the kiddy-fiddling. 
 Cry me a river. Like I said, it's interesting to see all these experts coming out thinking the Catholic Church should do what they think is best.
Originally posted by Stazi: The Greek Orthodox Church has alowed marriage for it's preist for hundreds of years, and there have not been any problems with priests molesting kids. Obviously they understood that celebacy was not something that was humanly ideal.
That's why the Greek Orthodox Church is the XFL and the Roman Catholic Church is the NFL, not because priests molest kids but because the truths sustained within the faith are minimally relative to the times.
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Originally posted by Davo: Originally posted by todras: Maybe he'll change the laws on marriage & the priesthood.
FYI To do so would completely ignore the true purpose and essence of the priesthood.
Really? How is this so when the early apostlotic writings said that the leaders of the early Christian church were to be men with one wife? Does this mean that priest HAVE to be married? Maybe, but more importanly it is the old bias against polygamy. But the simple fact remains that allowing married priests (other than the ones that currently get in via loopholes) WOULD over time resolve the issue the Church has failed to address, that of pedophilia. It would not eliminate the diddling of altar boys, but allowing the priests a sexual outlet as they had before the Church decided that priests could not use prostitues would go a long way towards avoiding problems in the future.
The Catholic church has perverted scripture for no particilar reason other than to control it's people and it's clergy for decades.
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The faith has not changed since it's inception - when the two churches split.
Both churches retained some archaic beliefs - a synonym with religion. I'm not saying my church is better than yours, but merely that the Catholic churches beliefs are not helping them. If you think that changing some rules to allow priests to take wives and lessen the chance of molestation, is wrong, then I pity you. NOTHING is good about children being molested!
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It could be that pedophiles are attracted to the priesthood because they can molest boys and get away with it. If priests were allowed to marry, it would change the whole culture of the church.
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Originally posted by Beowulf: Really? How is this so when the early apostlotic writings said that the leaders of the early Christian church were to be men with one wife?
Priests are to live in Christ's likeness. They are to be mirror images of Christ in every way possible. Being married disturbs this likeness. (Please don't refer to The DaVinci Code in your response).
How does letting priests marry prevent pedophiles from becoming priests?
Originally posted by Beowulf: The Catholic church has perverted scripture for no particilar reason other than to control it's people and it's clergy for decades.
Quite the allegation. I'm sure you'll back it up somehow in this thread.
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Originally posted by TourDeForce: Frankly, I'd like to see a really strong pope come out & take on secularism.
Me too, I'd like to see the Catholic leadership become more militant in condemning Catholics who pick & choose which portions of that religion they observe. That would then lead to more people giving more thought to what they really believe and questioning organized religion in general.
Reminds me of a joke:
Two Priests discover an ancient original version of the Bible. The senior Priest secludes himself in a basement to study the manuscript without interruption. After two days, the other Priest visits him, and finds the older one sobbing uncontrollably. "What is it, Father?" asks the younger Priest. "It says 'celebrate,' not 'celibate!!'" cries the older one.
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That's the difference, the priests are the extension of th original 12 disciples, who had wives. Even St. Peter on whom the church was built, was a disciple. I think the Catholics try to emulate Christs where as other Christian faiths carry on the tradition of Christs disciples.
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