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while I would like to encourage you on and say to keep at it.
is it really worth it? I mean even if you do make it into SVT territory...thats only in the 15s. In reality thats not fast at all. Not even close...You've got 2 more seconds to knock off that 15 second time to even be considered quick.
I also wanted a quick contour at one point but with all these new cars coming out and with the money/mod ratio of some factory turbocharged cars out there...its really a waste.
While there is nothing wrong with having a clean car with some bolt ons here and there, dumping loads of money into it is not worth it.
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I agree it may not be worth it but it is fun and unique and yours so why not. I turboed my neon and everyone said that it was a waste, the thing ran a 13.3 in the 1/4 when I sold it. I still miss it but not the problems. If I had to do it over again I would have kept it and you should to. If your looking for a port and polished head cheap I have one, but it is milled for 10.4:1 compression so something would need to be done to lower the compression for a supercharger.
ATX MTX swap, rear drum disc swap, drilled rotors, ported intake, optim throttle body, CAI, 7.5L MAF, adj. fuel regulator, longtube headers, underdrive pulley, no EGR, low inpedence bigger injectors, 2002 Focus Swap
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Hector has already supercharged it. I think just getting the kinks worked out is all that is needed for some respectable numbers. It would be a waste to NOT continue at this point, and probably a decent loss of money if he sold the car.
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i think he should sell it. if he isnt going to get the car tuned correctly then he is just wasting his time. all of this guess work could be figured out if he knew what the car was doing but for some reason he doesnt want to take it to a dyno. i say sell it to someone who would do things right.
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Mike is right on. What's the point in throwing parts on if you don't dyno it right after an F/I install? When you change other parts you don't know if you're making a difference unless you dyno. I guess you can tell at the strip but still.
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I think he needs to get the thing tuned right then he will like it even more. Hector maybe a chip isn't the answer, maybe just use a chip to remove a little timing and remove the speed limiter, but use an SAFC to tune on a dyno. With an safc you can probably get a better tune then someone programming a chip after looking at a few dyno runs. Plus you can easily retune it for other mods. Point is its your money your car, whats another $300 at the dyno to get it running right you already have about $3k into the FI setup now right.
ATX MTX swap, rear drum disc swap, drilled rotors, ported intake, optim throttle body, CAI, 7.5L MAF, adj. fuel regulator, longtube headers, underdrive pulley, no EGR, low inpedence bigger injectors, 2002 Focus Swap
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What it comes down to is personal choice.
It is Hector's car.
Does he think investing his hard earned money into making his car "quick" is worth it.
1/4 mile times and dyno #'s are only 2 factors.
The overall style of the car (and I must say I personally think Hector has one of the best looking cars, very tasteful), the uniqueness of a Contour being quick, the great handling that's possible, etc.
I decided, early on, that I wanted a quick car but was not going to invest alot of money.
So I went with nitrous instead of a turbo or s/c.
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Dyno tuning is in the near future. What would be the point of tuning before the W/I and the smaller pulley. I know the car is getting enough fuel.....so the plan is to swap back the optimized TB, get my exhaust issues fixed, buy the the W/I, and install that with the smaller pulley. THEN it is off to the dyno to get my chip tuned. After looking at cars, thinking about car payments, driving my car I am keeping it. I love this car. 
Hector
2003 Rally Red Mitsubishi Evolution VIII
257HP/259TQ
2005 Lapis Blue Mazda 6s
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Originally posted by ZetecNinja:
while I would like to encourage you on and say to keep at it.
is it really worth it? I mean even if you do make it into SVT territory...thats only in the 15s. In reality thats not fast at all. Not even close...You've got 2 more seconds to knock off that 15 second time to even be considered quick.
I also wanted a quick contour at one point but with all these new cars coming out and with the money/mod ratio of some factory turbocharged cars out there...its really a waste.
While there is nothing wrong with having a clean car with some bolt ons here and there, dumping loads of money into it is not worth it.
It is not about being the fastest out there. I swear you kids will never get it.  That is why every kid is driving a damn SRT!
The point of building my car is for me. I am an enthusiast. If I wanted to just be fast, I would have sold the car and gone DSM or something like that. But they too have problems. I wanted something unique, something that any true enthusiast can appreciate. I tell people straight up all the time: "It's not the fastest car, but it is fun." My car is quick for what it is. And you know what? People always are surprised by my car.....and that is what I want. 
Hector
2003 Rally Red Mitsubishi Evolution VIII
257HP/259TQ
2005 Lapis Blue Mazda 6s
RET: 00 Cabernet Red Ford Contour Zetec ATX SUPERCHARGED
160HP/141TQ
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Originally posted by mikey boy:
i think he should sell it. if he isnt going to get the car tuned correctly then he is just wasting his time. all of this guess work could be figured out if he knew what the car was doing but for some reason he doesnt want to take it to a dyno. i say sell it to someone who would do things right.
Mike....when will you ever learn? I go through things a certain way. It may not be the easiest way but I learn from it. I am always figuring things out in my head. If I didn't do it this way my car would not be anything like it is today.
I am now the official "Zetec Contour research and development team" 
Hector
2003 Rally Red Mitsubishi Evolution VIII
257HP/259TQ
2005 Lapis Blue Mazda 6s
RET: 00 Cabernet Red Ford Contour Zetec ATX SUPERCHARGED
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