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I love this law, people who sit in the left lane all day on I94 in michigan piss me off. I find myself in the left lane 90% of my drive, but im always passing people!
I may get caught at the same light as you, but bottom line is i don't tlike going slow. and either way, im still ahead of your slow ass at that light, so when it turns green Im not held up by you.
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Originally posted by Kane:
I like the highway speed limits here... 75 on the interstates, 70 on the 2 lane highways.
Still wish they had the old "reasonable" limit on the interstates...
You wouldn't be wishing that if you ran across the cop who thought that "reasonable" was 55mph. That's why they got rid of that law -- too many cops were being unreasonable (rather ironic) in their assessment of "reasonable". It actually improved safety on the freeways while it was in effect.
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Originally posted by sigma:
Originally posted by Kane:
I like the highway speed limits here... 75 on the interstates, 70 on the 2 lane highways.
Still wish they had the old "reasonable" limit on the interstates...
You wouldn't be wishing that if you ran across the cop who thought that "reasonable" was 55mph. That's why they got rid of that law -- too many cops were being unreasonable (rather ironic) in their assessment of "reasonable". It actually improved safety on the freeways while it was in effect.
Thats not why they got rid of it, it was ruled unconstitutional by the Montana Supreme Court because they felt it was "too vague". It stemmed from a gentleman who fought his speeding ticket all the way there for doing over 100 mph on a 2 lane highway. One case, not a bunch of unreasonable cops. Basically, a "reasonable and prudent" speed limit cannot exist in our litigous society.
Perhaps they should have done what Germany does on the Autobahn and set a "recommended" speed limit.
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Excuse me, you're correct and I knew why, I should have said "one reason". It was a very common complaint from many people I knew up there, which went along with the "vagueness".
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Too many people in this country. You can't have people who are responsible enough to know the limits. Just one guy ruins it.
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Well, as long as the thread is hijacked...
One theory I read a long time ago, and liked, was to set speed limits at what 80% of people are doing, anyway. That way, you only ticket the minority of people who just won't go with the flow.
The countervailing safetycrat theory is that no matter what the speed limit is, people will drive 10mph over it. But I think people go 10 over because they know the set limit is ridiculously low from a "safe passage" standpoint. A "reasonable" speed limit, based on what most people consider a safe speed, would be adhered to by most people.
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On the freeway here, they upped the limit to 90 from 80 because so many people were going 90 anyways. The result was that everyone goes 90, and people in a hurry usually stay around 100. Nobody is getting tickets on the freeway anymore, but police are heavily enforcing both school zones and main arteries in the city.
I've passed patrol cars doing well over the limit and had them follow me a distance. As soon as it's clear to them you're just a guy in a hurry, they back off and go about thier own business. I have never gotten a ticket in this city, and I know I've been speeding.
It's nice to have the police going after the real problems on the roads, not people trying to get to where they are going, but the people that really have no idea what they are doing behind the wheel of a 3000lb pile of metal.
If traffic is going 90 in a 70 zone, just go 90. You'll see a decrease in people tailgating, and a huge decrease in cars swapping lanes to get ahead. I really don't care if your mileage drops 2%.
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Originally posted by Honkeytonk Monkey:
On the freeway here, they upped the limit to 90 from 80 because so many people were going 90 anyways. The result was that everyone goes 90, and people in a hurry usually stay around 100. Nobody is getting tickets on the freeway anymore, but police are heavily enforcing both school zones and main arteries in the city.
I've passed patrol cars doing well over the limit and had them follow me a distance. As soon as it's clear to them you're just a guy in a hurry, they back off and go about thier own business. I have never gotten a ticket in this city, and I know I've been speeding.
It's nice to have the police going after the real problems on the roads, not people trying to get to where they are going, but the people that really have no idea what they are doing behind the wheel of a 3000lb pile of metal.
If traffic is going 90 in a 70 zone, just go 90. You'll see a decrease in people tailgating, and a huge decrease in cars swapping lanes to get ahead. I really don't care if your mileage drops 2%.
The only place I've ever passed a police car clearly speeding was in Mexico on the Chihuahua-Juarez highway. Speedlimit is 90 km/h and we were doing closer to 130 km/h. Since the ambient temperature had to be over 100 and the amounts of traffic wizzing by him (except for trucks and buses, most people do between 100-150 km/h), it was obvious the Federal Caminos (Mexico's national highway patrol) didn't want to get out of his air conditioned Crown Vicky. 
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And then you have states like NJ that are paying troopers overtime for a month to go out and write speeding tickets. This is just a naked money grab. I thought it was almost ok whent the interstates finally went to 65, but now they want to send out the ticket brigade.
A little enforcement of left lane squatting here would be great, as would reckless driving, cell phone use while driving, improperly aimed HIDs and tailgating.
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We have the same left lane law in Texas, but I haven't seen it enforced yet and I don't see any change in peoples driving habits and it's been two years. On the mpg part of this topic, I have also seen an increase in that when driving in the 80's with both Duratec cars.
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