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Originally posted by SalKhan:
Hell why not bolt it right after Y-Pipe or Cat?




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Originally posted by SalKhan:
Hell why not bolt it right after Y-Pipe or Cat?




Exactly what I was thinking. We could pipe in a FMIC with this...somehow


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Originally posted by Keyser:
Another issue to consider is that you want to put a rather hot turbine housing or two next to a plastic gas tank. Even with heat sheilding it would concern me.



The turbo's would be were the stock mufflers are. Far away from the fuel cell. The fuel cell sits in front of the rear subframe. It is not even close to the rear of the car.

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A mass produced kit would be easier to do from the stock single pipe setup. Mount the turbo on one side and filter on the other.

Another thing people seem to be forgetting is packaging. How many different exhaust setups are out there? A mass produced kit would only fit the exhaust it was prototyped on. I run a custom dual exhaust like no one else on the planet is running. Not surprising considering it was custom built. So unless everyone built a setup with 1" and 1 degree of mine they'd be SOL on fitment.

Chris did bring up tuning which is another major issue. I left that out of my equation because I easily have that covered. That would add a chunk more to the total price. Like you said dyno testing plus a custom chip are not going to be free.

Then there is fuel. Injectors are a must. (24 or 30) Fuel pump is a good idea. (must for 300+) MAF is a good idea. (must for 300+)

Which brings me back to my original point. It "would be cheap" because you are doing it yourself to your current setup. That is the whole point of DIY. Because I have several of the bases covered and I am doing all the fabrication work and tuning my cost for a project like this is very low.
I had been tossing this idea around for a long time but finally decided the platform just wasn't worth it. It can't handle the 3L as it is now much less with 100 more HP & TQ at the wheels. It may still get done some day but there are other areas I would rather do first. (brakes come to mind!) Plus with going back to school my time & money is at a premium already.


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Ah yes by the mufflers. At least the downpipe wouldn't be the issue. You were planning a blow through maf I take it Greg? Otherwise your manifold volume would be like 12+ cubic feet. It could be done, but blow through mafs can be a bit tricky.


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Originally posted by Keyser:
Ah yes by the mufflers. At least the downpipe wouldn't be the issue. You were planning a blow through maf I take it Greg? Otherwise your manifold volume would be like 12+ cubic feet. It could be done, but blow through mafs can be a bit tricky.



No way man.

I was thinking of moving backwards and coverting it to speed density.



Yes. Set the MAF up as blow through. I've looked into it and it wouldn't be an issue. The good thing is the air charge would be much less turbulent verses using a blow through MAF on an underhood setup with all the sharp bends required.


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You may need to draw this out for me, literally with stick figures and everything, because if you're running true duals into remote turbos I would like to know where you'll have the room to run the intake pipe(s) back to engine. Unless your planning to snake it through the suspenion and up the sides or maybe just over the car and back in the engine or something?

I figure it would be easier to have a a sing exhaust far before or far after the gas tank and have one pipe return up front. Or if you want, run duals but in sequential form, maybe one before cat and one after and have the intakes meet?

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There is plenty of room for the intake pipe to run back up the stock exhaust channel around the tank, then 5' under the cabin, and into the engine bay.
Using the stock exhaust routing it would go back under the fuel cell and cross over at the cabin. There is already a mount there to hang it from even.

A small turbo only has a 1.5" to maybe 1.65" outlet. Single 2.25" to maybe 2.5" pipe is more then sufficient for 2 small turbos or 1 large one.

Even 2.5" pipe would not be seen past the sideskirts. Also it would have more ground clearance then them as well.


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I'd stick with one T-28 and call it good. 2 turbo all the way back there just adds more pipe and unnecessary complexity.


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turbo newb here, is there something wrong with blowing air through the MAF?


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Originally posted by svtProdigy:
why would you not buy it?



Zetecers are notorious for wanting stuff that they'd never buy. We have zetecs, we're poor.


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