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Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
Braindead = dead
But modern medicine has other things to say about that... 
If you can't bring them anywhere near their former self then why are they kept alive. Honestly this is sick...and I'm sick of hearing about it.
I agree! Shes never going to be the same and shes as good as dead from the looks of it. Why make her suffer anymore, thats if she can even feel anything. Its just sick and like Pete said I'm so sick of hearing about it! The parents need to let her go!
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The only thing I am going to say on the subject is this:
If I am ever beyond the ability to communicate my deisre to live, with no reasonable expectation to recover, then my family knows I have no deisre to remain in that state. I belive there is life beyond this one, so a miserable existence here is not something I want.
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Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
Braindead = dead
Well, we don't really know that for sure. This goes beyond the scope of science, hence it's more of a philosophy. Her vital status is open to opinion and scrutiny under other tools like religion and faith i.e. what is the abstract definition of death. However, I would be so certain to say braindead=death. If I showed you the EEG readings (brain waves) for someone showing learning through negative event-related potentials, you and the entire medical society wouldn't have a clue what was going on (currently noone has any idea why it occurs or how to explain it). It's an instance where the brain potential shoots up in a split frame that is equal to no activation of learning or activity, but then spikes back to normal excitation. Sorta, like the brain is dead for a split second w/o activity. Hence, there are too many variables to this and really too many unknowns. The degree of physical life form is key in this situation. I'm just giving you some pointers Pete. Anyways, how's school going man? One more month for us!
In regards to the site, I can see it in a humorous light, but it really isn't anything to joke about. However, as the old saying goes, 'to each his own.'
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Originally posted by XKontour98:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
Braindead = dead
But modern medicine has other things to say about that...
If you can't bring them anywhere near their former self then why are they kept alive. Honestly this is sick...and I'm sick of hearing about it.
I agree! Shes never going to be the same and shes as good as dead from the looks of it. Why make her suffer anymore, thats if she can even feel anything. Its just sick and like Pete said I'm so sick of hearing about it! The parents need to let her go!
Yeah [puts on flame suit]
I think some politicians want to redefine 'death' to exclude 'brain death', as it might be considered prejudicial to some of their current members...... 
J/K
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Originally posted by timstour:
Originally posted by XKontour98:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
Braindead = dead
But modern medicine has other things to say about that...
If you can't bring them anywhere near their former self then why are they kept alive. Honestly this is sick...and I'm sick of hearing about it.
I agree! Shes never going to be the same and shes as good as dead from the looks of it. Why make her suffer anymore, thats if she can even feel anything. Its just sick and like Pete said I'm so sick of hearing about it! The parents need to let her go!
Yeah [puts on flame suit]
I think some politicians want to redefine 'death' to exclude 'brain death', as it might be considered prejudicial to some of their current members......
J/K
Actually, you aren't too far off. The emergency federal laws instituted around this case, many feel were not meant to save her, or kill her, or do anything about Terri's situation. Many argue that Bush used this case to pull on the Democrats heart strings (aka their poll numbers) to push the new laws through in order to have legal support for the upcomming legal challenges to the Medicare reform he is pushing.
It is truly sad that this woman has become a joke and a political pawn. I can't throw stones at her parents however, as I think many of us here, wether we admit it or not, would probably do much the same (maybe not go as far though) to keep our child alive.
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Originally posted by TheAlmightyMe:
I can't throw stones at her parents however, as I think many of us here, wether we admit it or not, would probably do much the same (maybe not go as far though) to keep our child alive.
If I had kids, I wouldn't want to put them through that.
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Originally posted by TheAlmightyMe:
Originally posted by timstour:
Originally posted by XKontour98:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
Braindead = dead
But modern medicine has other things to say about that...
If you can't bring them anywhere near their former self then why are they kept alive. Honestly this is sick...and I'm sick of hearing about it.
I agree! Shes never going to be the same and shes as good as dead from the looks of it. Why make her suffer anymore, thats if she can even feel anything. Its just sick and like Pete said I'm so sick of hearing about it! The parents need to let her go!
Yeah [puts on flame suit]
I think some politicians want to redefine 'death' to exclude 'brain death', as it might be considered prejudicial to some of their current members......
J/K
Actually, you aren't too far off. The emergency federal laws instituted around this case, many feel were not meant to save her, or kill her, or do anything about Terri's situation. Many argue that Bush used this case to pull on the Democrats heart strings (aka their poll numbers) to push the new laws through in order to have legal support for the upcomming legal challenges to the Medicare reform he is pushing.
It is truly sad that this woman has become a joke and a political pawn. I can't throw stones at her parents however, as I think many of us here, wether we admit it or not, would probably do much the same (maybe not go as far though) to keep our child alive.
I would want to remember my child the way she was. Not a helpless vegetable. I think it is pathetic that they have some hope that some divine intervention is going to save her. My friend was in a similar state for 6 months and it was evident he was never coming around. At any rate this should not have gone on for 15 f in years. It is a waste of the families' lives and a waste of money.
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What are you talking about? I can not support those that I know nothing about. My wife works with people like Terri everyday and many of those same people that were given up on now lead productive lives.
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Originally posted by kontour_sev6:
What are you talking about? I can not support those that I know nothing about. My wife works with people like Terri everyday and many of those same people that were given up on now lead productive lives.
I don't know what you mean by "like" Terri; as no one with no cerebral cortex left is ever going to lead a "productive life", as it is physically impossible to do anything except lie there. Without a cerebral cortex you cannot, and never can, feel, move, or think anything at all. For all intents and purposes, her brain is physically gone. All the important functions that make us who we are can never exist again.
Your wife might work with people "like" Terri in that they're bed-ridden, perhaps comatose, or even brain-damaged, but she is absolutely not working with people that have no remaining cerebral cortex -- at least not working with any that "now lead productive lives".
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I work with people with no cerebral cortex. We call them Democrats.
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