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Originally posted by ZetecNinja:
You mean its been one or two generations at best and we are supposed to forget already! You obviously don't have much interaction with black people because I do not know a single person that feels this country "owes" them anything...if u met a couple odd balls good for you.
Yeah, exactly. Get over it. How many black people were enslaved/killed VS christians?? Last time i checked, black slaves weren't fed to the lions for the entertainment of others.
How many black people were killed/enslaved VS the Jews?? Is picking cotton THAT much worse than piling the bodies of dead, decaying jews into firepits ALL day long? Were black CHILDREN experimented on just to see basically what would kill them and how fast? The list goes on and on, and it's generally alot worse than the stories of black slaves here in the states. So why is it we only keep hearing about that? Tell me, exactly how bad did black people have it??
You don't know anyone who thinks the US owes them something? Turn on the TV. Look at folks like Al Sharpton and other public figureheads. Weren't there hearings recently regarding reperations for slavery? C'mon man....denial is a horrible thing.
And I'd hate to burst your bubble oh omnipresent ninja, but i have lots of interaction with black people. My closest friend is black, i have dinner with his family on a regular basis.
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A black guy with a durag on riding around in his car bumpin rap music could be a "thug" to you. To me, thats just a regular old black person. Why should they have to change who they are just because a few uppity people think they are bad based on looks alone. And no, its not funny...
And why should the "uppity" people have to change either? It's a free country right? It goes both ways man. You're free to dress and act as stupid as you want, but don't get all offended when you walk into someone else's neighborhood and get looked at funny. The point you're not understanding is, it's human nature to classify everything based on how it looks. Especially people. And, we reject those that are "different" than us. That's never ever, ever going to change. Stop taking it so personal, it happens to everyone, not just black people.
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And alot of black people have not made this image for themselves. The ones that do, well that is just their environment...and the famous ones exploit the image because its what White America wants and it sells. That does not reflect black society as a whole.
Should I pick out a bunch of drugged out rock guys and blame them for a bad image of white america? They certainly do not reflect whites as a whole...
The bottom line of this thread is that what he said was wrong, period and it damn sure is not my fault or anyone elses fault he thinks that way.
Don't hand me that "it's just their environment" chit! Hell, by that logic I should be one bad apple. People were killed on the corner of my block in brooklyn. Am I walking around dealing drugs and robbing people?? No. Bad parenting, laziness, and the belief that "the white man" is out to get you are what give alot of black people the image they have. Does it represent the whole community? No. Nobody said it did.
What's the bad image of white america? I'd love to know. 'Round my neck of the woods there aren't many people dressing like motley crue and throwing televisions out of hotel windows while their friends OD on the couch. I do notice alot of people wearing g-unit apparel and reciting Tony "Yayo" rhymes. And no, they're not white.
I did some work at a church in Harlem a while back. I met the janitor there, he let me in locked up rooms & such. One day these kids were walking down the street while he was outside, they called some white guy a cracker or something. I was walking out the door when he grabbed one of them and said, "boy do you even know what that word means?" They all replied no and so he explained it means "whip cracker." And so if you think about it, it's far form derogatory to white people. He smacked a few of them in the head and told them to get out of there. He turns to me and says "these kids nowadays, they got it better than we ever have and they act like fools - they're throwing it all away." I wound up talking to the guy for almost an hour. He was one of the kindest, most polite,well spoken and smartest people i've ever met. And he's lived through it all, IIRC he was pushing 80 at the time. He had no hatred, no ill feelings towards me or any other white people. I find it funny how people directly affected by slavery/segregation and the utter racism that was once prevalent in this country let it go faster than those who have never experienced it.
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Originally posted by TheGreatOne:
I did some work at a church in Harlem a while back. I met the janitor there, he let me in locked up rooms & such. One day these kids were walking down the street while he was outside, they called some white guy a cracker or something. I was walking out the door when he grabbed one of them and said, "boy do you even know what that word means?" They all replied no and so he explained it means "whip cracker." And so if you think about it, it's far form derogatory to white people. He smacked a few of them in the head and told them to get out of there. He turns to me and says "these kids nowadays, they got it better than we ever have and they act like fools - they're throwing it all away." I wound up talking to the guy for almost an hour. He was one of the kindest, most polite,well spoken and smartest people i've ever met. And he's lived through it all, IIRC he was pushing 80 at the time. He had no hatred, no ill feelings towards me or any other white people. I find it funny how people directly affected by slavery/segregation and the utter racism that was once prevalent in this country let it go faster than those who have never experienced it.
That was a wise old man. I would love to have talked to him for a while. He's been there, done that. His perspective would have been invaluable!
Now as far as the current generation not feeling racism, I'm not buying it. True they don't feel it to anywhere near the degree that the old man had seen it, but it is there. I think it has more to do with social perceptions than racial bigotry in most cases. Although, I admit the two can be difficult to distinguish at times.
Like the old man, I quite frankly think the black community is squandering the great strides made in the 60s & 70s. For a while, there was a great deal of value in education, bettering your situation as best you can, taking pride in a job well done, & taking the high road & not being so reactionary. Directly responsible for this was Dr. King, a fabulous leader, a visionary that was making all the difference. He was guiding the people of this nation, blank & white, to a better world. For the life of me I cannot imagine why somebody has not picked up the torch that this man ignited and carried it to the promised land. The key to prosperity is to become part of the nation not shun it. That's what the defeat of segregation was all about. Yet there is a pervasive & false idea that you're "selling out" if you make good in school, or have ambition. The battle was won, but nobody put up the flag and too few settled the newly won territory.
I can imagine why there are those who would prefer to keep the status quo, but their goals are for personal gain and are NOT in the best interest of the people they supposedly represent, or the nation in which they live. Bill Cosby tried to "gently" point these facts out and look what happened to him.
Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.
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