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No, i'm pretty sure they said she is unable to swallow.
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Originally posted by SVTatGT:
Originally posted by 18psi2300:
Whats with these fuggin idiots who are trying to rush into the hospice with water and food...if they got to her and poured it into her mouth, she can't swallow, she'd drown...how fuggin stupid are they!
I could be wrong, but I think she can swallow, its a reflex. If you couldn't swallow you would drown in your own saliva.
But yea, it will all be over soon, thankfully. Or should I say hopefully...
Nope, she can't swallow. At least not instinctively. There is no muscle control at all, including swallowing.
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Originally posted by sigma:
Originally posted by SVTatGT:
Originally posted by 18psi2300:
Whats with these fuggin idiots who are trying to rush into the hospice with water and food...if they got to her and poured it into her mouth, she can't swallow, she'd drown...how fuggin stupid are they!
I could be wrong, but I think she can swallow, its a reflex. If you couldn't swallow you would drown in your own saliva.
But yea, it will all be over soon, thankfully. Or should I say hopefully...
Nope, she can't swallow. At least not instinctively. There is no muscle control at all, including swallowing.
Ok, must have heard incorrectly, thanks for clearing it up 
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If Terri Schiavo was a terrorist or an Iraqi 'insurgent', the left would be demanding that she be treated better.
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Originally posted by Davo:
If Terri Schiavo was a terrorist or an Iraqi 'insurgent', the left would be demanding that she be treated better.
And that's the sad part in all this.
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Originally posted by Davo:
If Terri Schiavo was a terrorist or an Iraqi 'insurgent', the left would be demanding that she be treated better.
Not if the terrorist was a human vegetable...
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Originally posted by Davo:
If Terri Schiavo was a terrorist or an Iraqi 'insurgent', the left would be demanding that she be treated better.
And like I said earlier, if she was wearing a burkah, no one would care if we dropped a bomb on her.
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Originally posted by DanburySE:
what makes us even think we have the right to comment on this?
You're right! We should not be questioning her husbands decision.
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Originally posted by sigma:
Sounds to me like you wouldn't care if she had a video-taped living will dictating exactly what she wanted to happen -- you'd support her parents just because you agree with their position on right-to-life.
I think that is it in a nutshell.
How did existing at all costs become such an issue with the extremely religious?
Why would they not want her to go to heaven rather than remain in an infantile state for maybe 50 years?
I hope my wife would fight as hard for my right to die as Michael Schiavo has for his wife. It sickens me to think she could be put in that situation.
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No, she can swallow, but only as the bodies natural reflex with saliva. Without this reflex she would have died long ago.
Now, this morning I saw a report from a Neurologist for the parents, it was simply stupid. She made 100% of her diagnosis via video tapes that were close to 10 yrs old, and medical records. She had never even VISITED her in the hospital to do simple reflex tests (because they know she fails those tests, and it makes their point mute). According to Dr. Gupta (a family friend, the same from CNN) her entire cerebral cortex is liquified now, which means 0% chance of recovery. With the amount of medical professionals in my family we've had many discussions about this, unfortunately. We always come to the same conclusion in the end, however...
#1 - It's a sad circimstance, and I'd wish it upon no-one.
#2 - There is nothing anyone can do, she will not get better.
#3 - It is not our right to decide, nor the governments.
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