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Originally posted by 99blacksesport:
Actually, republicans 15 years ago put her into the coma so that Bush could sign this law, bringing republican domination to the entire country.
Be careful... I know people who would believe that.
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Originally posted by Zoom Zoom Diva:
Originally posted by 99SESPORT:
Originally posted by Zoom Zoom Diva:
Trust Congress to completely mess up another item they have absolutely no business getting involved in.
Turn that around...
Trust "judges" to completely mess up another item they have absolutely no business getting involved in...
The judges are upholding the rights of the person who is empowered to make the decisions and the rights of the patient to rest in peace. If the parents would just let her go, the judges wouldn't have to be involved.
If the "unfaithful" husband would just let her go (which he did so many years ago by looking for "sex" in a different place), the judges AND Congress wouldn't be involved!!!
Hmmm, it's amazing that one wants to KILL her and one wants to KEEP her alive!!
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I saw her brainscan, doesn't look like there's any more activity going on in there than in the average Democrats brain.
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1) It is fairly unusual to pull a feeding tube on one with the ability to feel pain. When no brainwave activity exists.. yes, done all the time. This girl clearly senses pain. Significant physical suffering will occur when the tube remains out.
2) Emotional suffering will NOT occur if she remains as such. Though you all now say you would want no such support, and imagine it to be a horrible life that determination was made with your cerebral cortex. The ASSUMPTION here, the premise is that she has no cortical function. In point of fact, she has had no PET scan to acurately determine this, (the gold standard). I assume she had the somewhat cruder EEG many years ago but this is not current standard of care. If she does have higher cortical function, then this is all the more tragic.
3 It is quite clear the family will suffer emotionally in the extreme. Whether they have refused to accept reality or whether they are simply content to have a 6 month old for life, I do not know.
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I find it unusual the the husband so vehemently wants this to occur after so many years. I find it unusal that he wants her body cremated over family objections as well. I also (from what I understand) find her initial injury, MI induced by high potassium, to be quite suspicious. It simply should not happen in someone with normal kidneys..I do not know all the details so will leave it here.}}
Bottom line. I am not sure this guy did not murder his wife but the court system has seen all the evidence and made its call. I am not sure it appropriate for Congress to become involved.
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Originally posted by DanNx:
Bottom line. I am not sure this guy did not murder his wife but the court system has seen all the evidence and made its call.
A court reviewed evidence that he may have attempted to murder her?
And has this aspect of the issue even been brought up in legitemate arenas before now? I've seen op-ed pieces saying he fits the typical description of a wife-beater, but nothing from any "accepted" sources.
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Itâ??s nice that Bush wasted his time flying back to Washington to sign a bill providing a â??Schiavo Review in U.S. Courtâ? for absolutely meaningless, entirely political reasons, when he could have stayed home in Texas and signed it just as effectively. Too bad, on August 6, 2001, upon receiving a briefing book, entitled â??Bin Laden Determined to Strike Inside the United States,â? he preferred, according to The New York Times, to break "off from work early and spent most of the day fishing.â?
Something very interesting is that this is the same George W. Bush signed a law in Texas that expressly gave hospitals the right to remove life support if the patient could not pay and there was no hope of revival, regardless of the patient's family's wishes. It is called the Texas Futile Care Law. Under this law, a baby was removed from life support against his mother's wishes in Texas just this week. Compassionate my ass.
With the new tort reform crap that is being pushed, Terry Schaivo would not have won the 1 mil in court to afford to be on the machine. When she (family) couldn't afford it, she would have to file bankrupcy right? No, she couldn't under the new bankrupcy laws. Yesterday's majority congressional actions were for the sole purpose of appealing to their religious base in the next election.
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Originally posted by 18psi2300:
Yesterday's majority congressional actions were for the sole purpose of appealing to their religious base in the next election.
Imagine that, elected officials doing something to please their base.  Funny how I don't see you complaining when liberals do the same thing in supporting the elimination of the tax cuts and opposing Social Security. So, what's the difference?
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Sigma: Why don't you just volunteer and go down there and pull it yourself? A life is a life to me, obviously you and I differ. No need to resort to insults. 
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Originally posted by 18psi2300:
Itâ??s nice that Bush wasted his time flying back to Washington to sign a bill providing a â??Schiavo Review in U.S. Courtâ? for absolutely meaningless, entirely political reasons, when he could have stayed home in Texas and signed it just as effectively. Too bad, on August 6, 2001, upon receiving a briefing book, entitled â??Bin Laden Determined to Strike Inside the United States,â? he preferred, according to The New York Times, to break "off from work early and spent most of the day fishing.â?
Something very interesting is that this is the same George W. Bush signed a law in Texas that expressly gave hospitals the right to remove life support if the patient could not pay and there was no hope of revival, regardless of the patient's family's wishes. It is called the Texas Futile Care Law. Under this law, a baby was removed from life support against his mother's wishes in Texas just this week. Compassionate my ass.
With the new tort reform crap that is being pushed, Terry Schaivo would not have won the 1 mil in court to afford to be on the machine. When she (family) couldn't afford it, she would have to file bankrupcy right? No, she couldn't under the new bankrupcy laws. Yesterday's majority congressional actions were for the sole purpose of appealing to their religious base in the next election.
LMAO! ITS ALL BUSH"S FAULT! Why would they have to appeal to the religious base? They already have them!
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Originally posted by Corbett:
Why would they have to appeal to the religious base? They already have them!
I hope you're kidding here... it's necessary for politicians to come out in full force for these emotional/sensationalistic cases because that's exactly what solidifies support from special interest groups (especially the religious lobby, as is the case here).
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