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#1219610 03/19/05 05:25 AM
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I agree with Ross, err, Brad, diva, wait-whatever your name is.................... James! Chit, sorry.

If you or your parents don't have will, PLEASE have them make one.

When my father passed away last month, he didn't have a will. THANKFULLY, most everything went automatically to my mother due to her name either being on the mortgage, or being a beneficiary on his IRAs, or the fact she had the right of survivorship on the bank accounts, otherwise, this could have been a disaster for me.

GET A WILL made!

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Unless a DNR (do not revive) or some form of legal, notarized (or video to skip notary needs) letter was made by the wife, stating NOT to pull her in this event, the husband should have say so..

If there is NO reasonable chance that she will ever revive, even partly..The parents may not wish it, but it isn't their call...



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I think in this situation, given some of the circumstances, in should be left up to the parents. The main reason why i say this is because not to long after she was in a coma, the husband started to not show up to the hospital and when he did show up he wouldn't touch her and would be ice cold towards her, this according to her parents and medical staff. Now i can understand about being that way intially, but to be like this for the past 10 years in ridiculas. But that is just my opinion, so if you are going to flame make sure you do it softly.


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Originally posted by JVT:

The husband should have the final say in this case I think.




Not when the husband is wanting to save money on his inheritance from the mal-practice lawsuit she won. The money is marked to go towards her treatment, until she dies, when it goes over to him. He is already common law married to another woman, and has 2 kids. He should take himself out of Terry's life, and get the divorce like her family wants him to do. Oh wait, if he divorces her he loses her inheritance.

I am sorry, but I am completly against killing her because she is in this state. Especially when it is going to take 2 weeks for her to die, and the only way she isn't going to feel pain is because they are going to drug her up so bad, keep her mouth and lips wet, and starve her to death.


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Look here and think....please read
http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?t=20114

Use your mind and your God given Wisdom if you have it. There is evil in her "husband's" thinking and it is all about greed. There was never any attempt in his plans to try to rehab Terri. He had her shut off from the outside world, no open window, no TV.


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Originally posted by Keith W:
Look here and think....please read
http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?t=20114

Use your mind and your God given Wisdom if you have it. There is evil in her "husband's" thinking and it is all about greed. There was never any attempt in his plans to try to rehab Terri. He had her shut off from the outside world, no open window, no TV.



Please, I've lived next to this BS for years. If you tell somebody you would not like to live in a certain condition than that wish should be carried out. The fact that the husband gave it five or six years before saying it's at that point pretty much negates any greed motives. Read ALL you can about it, and you will find most or all of the money will be gone to cover her care over the last 12 or 13 years. As for the idiot hunger strikers that have said "If Terry can't eat than neither will we" they need to go home and have a bowl of cereal. This stupidity has gone on long enough that now congress is getting involved. Sad day indeed.
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I have to agree. I don't think ANYONE would want to live like that. I understand the parents not wanting to do that to her, but no parent or loved one would really WANT to. If the husband gave it 6 yrs or whatever before he said pull the plug, then yeah, there goes the greed motive right out the window. I think he's just tired of going to court all the time and seeing his wife like that.
Honestly, she's not really going to get better or the doctors wouldn't have offered up the option of stopping her tube feeding like this. There must be some other way to feed her I would think. Maybe not.
I say let the woman die in peace and get it over with.


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Originally posted by jthursby:
Originally posted by Keith W:
Look here and think....please read
http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?t=20114

Use your mind and your God given Wisdom if you have it. There is evil in her "husband's" thinking and it is all about greed. There was never any attempt in his plans to try to rehab Terri. He had her shut off from the outside world, no open window, no TV.



Please, I've lived next to this BS for years. If you tell somebody you would not like to live in a certain condition than that wish should be carried out. The fact that the husband gave it five or six years before saying it's at that point pretty much negates any greed motives. Read ALL you can about it, and you will find most or all of the money will be gone to cover her care over the last 12 or 13 years. As for the idiot hunger strikers that have said "If Terry can't eat than neither will we" they need to go home and have a bowl of cereal. This stupidity has gone on long enough that now congress is getting involved. Sad day indeed.
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What the CRAP is wrong with you people? If any of you had been following the case since this became a big deal, you would understand that there is nothing that is "artifically" keeping her alive.

That is, unless you consider yourself "artificially" alive every time you open the refridgerator.

That's right, Terry Shciavo is not being kept alive by a respirator, or heart pumper, or anything but her own blood pumping, oxygen breathing body. She needs food. Now that the food pipe has been pulled, it will take nearly two weeks for her to starve to death, while she experiences pain you and I will never experience (that is unless they pull the plug to our supermarket.) So, let me explain the way that she will die. Her mouth and skin with dry out, her nose will bleed, her stomach will vomit as the irritated lining dries out, and she will experience unbelievable pain. A radio host, Gregg Knapp, had a another person who was determined to be in a "persistent vegetative state" on his radio show today who was starved for eight days while in that "persistent vegetative state." She explained that she could hear everything, understood it, just couldn't respond. She explained the pain as unbelievable. Oh, if you didn't realize it, she's out of it now....

Her husband on the other hand, has been in a live in relationship with another woman for a very long time, kids and all. He doesn't care enough to be there with her the day he sentenced her to death. His lawyer says the government is Stalinistic in the way they are trying to keep Terry alive. There's absolutely no proof that she wanted to die. This woman has not been given the proper medical care because of her "caring" husband.



Ignoring all above, letting her starve to death at this point is pure barbarism. It is horrendous to even think there are people in this world that feel she is expendable. She is alive and a human being, not an animal ready to be put to sleep.


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A feeding tube is a form of artifical life support. It is as natural of a process as a breathing machine. I am not saying this to villify feeding tubes, but to refute claims that they are a medical therapy rather than life support.

From looking at both sides, I truly think it is time to let her go. If she has an awareness (which has been disputed), several days of what is increasing pain is bad... but the extreme liklihood of decades of her existing state is far worse. I think her husband has been totally within his rights to let go and to keep fighting for her right to die, and also within his rights to have go on with his life.

I see far more humanity and compassion in letting her go than in forcing her to remain in this condition for what likely will be decades.


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I'll go even further and say this would be a case where a humane lethal injection would be justified.


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