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Originally posted by Viss1:
Originally posted by Corbett:
Why would they have to appeal to the religious base? They already have them!
I hope you're kidding here... it's necessary for politicians to come out in full force for these emotional/sensationalistic cases because that's exactly what solidifies support from special interest groups (especially the religious lobby, as is the case here).
Sorry, I am not kidding. I dont think the GOP would lose any support from their religious base had bush and congress not passed and signed this bill. Especially given the current crippled state of the DNC.
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Originally posted by Quicksilver:
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Why don't you just volunteer and go down there and pull it yourself?
A life is a life to me, obviously you and I differ. No need to resort to insults. 
I see where you got called on the carpet when you unwisely championed the "money" theory, but I'm not seeing where you were insulted...
Anyway, I think it's a damn shame that this has been carried out so far as to have politicians create a stand (one way or the other) on this issue. It's obvious that there's a case to be made both ways on who has this woman's best interests in mind, but since the husband has turned down MASSIVE amounts of money to keep her alive, it surely seems that he is more intent in carrying out her wishes over those of her parents.
I also find it interesting that every time this has been brought up for judicial review that it ended up in favor of allowing her life to terminate. What was the number (memory is foggy on this one)? 7 trials and ALL with the same outcome???
I can't imagine anyone WANTING and STATING that they would prefer to be kept alive indefinitely just to live out their remaining life as a somewhat intelligent potato. It sounds like her parents are hanging onto a 1 in a billion chance that she will have anything that resembles a halfway normal life out of their emotional greed. I wouldn't want to bury my child, either, but there comes a time when one needs to let go...
The double-edge sword of medicine and technology rears it's ugly head yet again; quality of life and quantity of life are in the balance and just because we as an advanced society have the ability to keep someone alive in some sort of semi-conscious state, it doesn't mean we neccesarily SHOULD.
What a mess.
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Originally posted by Davo:
Imagine that, elected officials doing something to please their base. 
Officials are elected to represent the entire population of their elected districts, not just the people who voted for them.
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Originally posted by Quicksilver:
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Why don't you just volunteer and go down there and pull it yourself?
A life is a life to me, obviously you and I differ. No need to resort to insults.
I didn't insult you. I said that you displayed ignorance of the workings of this particular case, which based on the comments that you made and the fact that you made no effort at all to refute what I said is apparently true.
I made no reference to your particular feelings on "Right to Life" as that is purely a subjective opinion. I only took issue with the sheer ignorance you displayed in your "Mr. Schiavo is a Con-Man" argument since it bears absolutely no relation to reality, and I hate to see such ignorance perpuated as it has. If you'd like to refute my comments, please step up and do so and explain to all of us how you reached your conclusion that her husband is nothing more than a "con man" and how we're all "blind as a bat" for not seeing it. Since you can see so clearly, enlighten us with the details of this incredible con that he's pulling over on all of us.
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Originally posted by Corbett:
I dont think the GOP would lose any support from their religious base had bush and congress not passed and signed this bill.
What do you think would have happened if Congressmen representing strongly religious districts hadn't done anything? I would expect a major uproar.
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Originally posted by Viss1:
What do you think would have happened if Congressmen representing strongly religious districts hadn't done anything?
Nothing, I dont think this has anything to do with religion.
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Originally posted by Corbett:
Nothing, I dont think this has anything to do with religion.
You really think the religious right would have stayed quiet? No mention of Terry in churches, no letter-writing campaigns, no prayer vigils, nothing? Seems to me this is a textbook example of what that group rallies around.
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Originally posted by Viss1:
Originally posted by Corbett:
Nothing, I dont think this has anything to do with religion.
You really think the religious right would have stayed quiet? No mention of Terry in churches, no letter-writing campaigns, no prayer vigils, nothing? Seems to me this is a textbook example of what that group rallies around.
I don't really understand why the group does rally around this. You think that this would be a case of man interfering with god's will by keeping her alive.
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Originally posted by Viss1:
You really think the religious right would have stayed quiet? No mention of Terry in churches, no letter-writing campaigns, no prayer vigils, nothing? Seems to me this is a textbook example of what that group rallies around.
I did not hear much from the religious right to have Congress do anything, and still have not. I currently live in the heart of the Bible belt and have not seen anything around here about this case (other than national news on TV ad newspapers).
Not one mention of it in the Church I attend or even the Bible school I am currently studying at.
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Originally posted by SVTatGT:
I don't really understand why the group does rally around this. You think that this would be a case of man interfering with god's will by keeping her alive.
The problem with this statement is that it is not God's will for anyone to die! But please, lets not get into another pointless religion debate.
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