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Originally posted by klavender:
Hasn't it been proven than animal life in Alaska actually florishes around oil pipelines, because of the heat? Do you realize the measures they have to go through to make sure that the area stays clean? They don't put up with anything up there. I knew a guy that worked in the oil fields in Alaska. He had a co-worker that killed a bobcat that had rabies. It was this worker's life or the animal. They fired him and sent him back home. All because he was trying to protect himself. Does anyone have pics of ANWAR? Isn't most of it vast wasteland of snow and rocks where this is almost no animal life? They are only talking about using like 1/2 of 1%. People [censored] about oil prices, but don't want us to drill. People [censored] about foreign dependency, but don't want us to drill. Make up your minds.
Read the other ANWR thread. I posted pictures on about halfway down the page. To anybody who thinks we can drill safely and not harm the environment, check out the history of Kenai Wildlife Reserve in Alaska. Heres the history for one eleven year period:
Flowline Leak, 1991: A pipeline leaked 5,630 gallons of crude oil and produced water, contaminating soils near a road right-of-way.
Flowline Break, 1994: A corroded pipeline released 2,000 gallons of crude oil into the wildlife refuge.
Flowline Break, 1995: A 400 gallon spill was discovered during a routine inspection just 100 feet away from the Swanson River.
Flowline Break, 1999: A recreational snowmobiler discovered the largest spill ever reported on the wildlife refuge. More than 200,000 gallons of crude oil and produced water were released on the refuge.
Underground Pipeline Leak, 1999: 8,600 gallons of produced water percolated up into wildlife habitat. More than 1,600 gallons reached the Swanson River.
Flowline Break, 2002: More than 350 gallons of crude oil and produced water spilled just �¼ mile from the Swanson River.
Any one of those incidents by themselves is no big deal (except the one in 99'), but the repeated abuse has to put a strain on an ecosystem.
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Originally posted by 18psi2300:
Read the other ANWR thread. I posted pictures on about halfway down the page. To anybody who thinks we can drill safely and not harm the environment, check out the history of Kenai Wildlife Reserve in Alaska. Heres the history for one eleven year period:
Flowline Leak, 1991: A pipeline leaked 5,630 gallons of crude oil and produced water, contaminating soils near a road right-of-way.
Flowline Break, 1994: A corroded pipeline released 2,000 gallons of crude oil into the wildlife refuge.
Flowline Break, 1995: A 400 gallon spill was discovered during a routine inspection just 100 feet away from the Swanson River.
Flowline Break, 1999: A recreational snowmobiler discovered the largest spill ever reported on the wildlife refuge. More than 200,000 gallons of crude oil and produced water were released on the refuge.
Underground Pipeline Leak, 1999: 8,600 gallons of produced water percolated up into wildlife habitat. More than 1,600 gallons reached the Swanson River.
Flowline Break, 2002: More than 350 gallons of crude oil and produced water spilled just �¼ mile from the Swanson River.
Any one of those incidents by themselves is no big deal (except the one in 99'), but the repeated abuse has to put a strain on an ecosystem.
Is that all that happened? Wow, I'm even more impressed by the oil companies' ability to keep the environment clean.
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OPEC isn't to blame, they don't love the high oil prices nearly as much as you think.
Few things...
Speculators, uncertainty, global instability and huge demand increases from Asia (i.e. China and India) is what's making oil prices so high. Oh, the value of the dollar doesn't help much either...
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Originally posted by JVT:
OPEC isn't to blame, they don't love the high oil prices nearly as much as you think.
Few things...
Speculators, uncertainty, global instability and huge demand increases from Asia (i.e. China and India) is what's making oil prices so high. Oh, the value of the dollar doesn't help much either...
-J
Holy [censored], batman, there ARE smart people on this forum!
Diesel owns you
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