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Bush approved drilling in Alaska.. he says there is about 90 billion drums of oil there. That will deffinetly do something for the price of oil... but for the environment... I better book my alaskan cruise QUICKLY before it looks like a wintery iraq. What pisses me off is that they are going to proceed with this... but bush IS NOT pushing alternative fueled vehicles. WTF can't auto makers make cars that are fuel efficient. We can send a guy to the moon and back, clone an animal, create negative g's, put a camera through your arteries... but my damn car can't get more han 22mpg's per gallon??!! I think the U.S... more importantly Bush and his cabinet, should be ashamed of themselves to let this matter get as out of control as it has.


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Originally posted by Th_m_s:
I've heard a theory that Wal-Mart is to blame. The theory goes: Wal-Mart sells stuff from China. China has a steel shortage and they need more fuel. Fuel is used to ship Items from China and to ship steel to China. I don't mind paying higher gas prices as long as I get the low Wal-Mart prices. How many miles away is China?




Utter crap.

Distance doesn't mean nearly as much as Means of Transport.

It costs more to ship something by truck from Chicago to LA than to ship the same item by ship from China to LA.

With just gas alone, a ship can move 8 times as much freight as a truck can with the same gallon of gas. Then there's the decreased operating costs of a ship versus a truck. It takes 1 or 2 guys to get a truck across the country -- it only take a couple dozen to get an entire ship of thousands of containers across the ocean. Their fuel isn't refined as well as standard truck diesel, so it's cheaper. And the taxes on the fuel aren't as great either.


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Originally posted by LilRedRocket:
Bush approved drilling in Alaska.. he says there is about 90 billion drums of oil there. That will deffinetly do something for the price of oil... but for the environment... I better book my alaskan cruise QUICKLY before it looks like a wintery iraq. What pisses me off is that they are going to proceed with this... but bush IS NOT pushing alternative fueled vehicles. WTF can't auto makers make cars that are fuel efficient. We can send a guy to the moon and back, clone an animal, create negative g's, put a camera through your arteries... but my damn car can't get more han 22mpg's per gallon??!! I think the U.S... more importantly Bush and his cabinet, should be ashamed of themselves to let this matter get as out of control as it has.




Bush approved the drilling....


Guess I better go visit alaska and take a [censored] ton of pics before it's an oil field.


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Originally posted by LilRedRocket:
Bush approved drilling in Alaska.. he says there is about 90 billion drums of oil there. That will deffinetly do something for the price of oil...



Actually we are 95% confident that there are 3.3 Billion barrels; 50% confident in 8.5 billion barrels. In other words, we don't know how much is there, but the educated guesses are in the 3 to 5 billion barrel range.


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within 8 years of drilling... they will average around 800,000 to over 1 million barrels a day. Drilling can last, on average, for about 10-15 years.. or until its dry. thats over 36 billion obarrels over 10 years...


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Not sure where you are getting those numbers, but these are directly from the USGS study on the reserve.


Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, 1002 Area, Petroleum Assessment, 1998, Including Economic Analysis


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damn you americans complain to much!!!

I'm paying almost a DOLLER A LITRE...

which equals to somewhere around 3.00 a gallon.


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Dont worry, were catching up.

Texas has sprouted up oil drilling rigs every where I go here in North Texas. We were at 1.79 about two weeks ago, I cant get it for under $2.00 a gallon.

I really am contemplating getting a cheap Cavalier or Escort or...dare I say...Honda just to get 44 mpg.

Plus I can rebuild SVT ground up....then I will save 4 barrels of gas and fight along Mel Gibson in Road Warrior and save the oil drillers...okay..now Im getting carried away...lets not discuss when the polar ice caps melt and all our cars are underwater


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Originally posted by Mad_Medeiros:
damn you americans complain to much!!!

I'm paying almost a DOLLER A LITRE...

which equals to somewhere around 3.00 a gallon.







In Detroit here.. we are getting close at $2.15 a gallon.. prices are sposed to go up today or tommorow.


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im paying almost $2.50 a gallon
and my buddy keeps trying to convince me to buy an 11sec Stang off of his friend. yeah, not thanks. i like 20mpg range, WITH performance, thank you very much.


and yet everyday i see new H2s all over town
nothing says "we won't stand for these gas prices!" like gas guzzling suvs.


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Sometimes you can mess up a word so bad that spell check doens't know what the hell you're talking about.


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