well thanks for the input and sorry for the comment DanCanuck, but it did read a bit like that. Also i am sorry for promoting motorway racing but, every now and again you just got to give your car a good run, if not we might as well run around in 50hp motors with t rated tyres. If it is any consilation (yes i know spelling)I NEVER SPEED IN A BUILT UP AREA LIKE A HOUSING ESTATE. And if i am to be pinalised for motorway racing, you better have a word with Dave Z. Iam sure he has mentioned in a post that he has raced afew BMW's om the freeway