thanks for the link, i saw it for the first time.
i had a bad experience with fram and have never used it since. i have heard bad stories about FRAM and these forums/sites confirm it. It's annoying how the guys at Murray's always come up to you and recommend FRAM as their best filter, better than Purolater or Mobil 1. I just tell them I'm not going to buy FRAM, that i'm all set but they often ask why and start arguing with me that I don't know what i'm talking about. I don't know much like Bobistheoilguy, but i know to stay away from FRAM. thank god for these 'studies'