Originally posted by path914: Originally posted by gsxr907: Originally posted by DemonSVT: Originally posted by gsxr907: All I am saying is this SE-R is the CSVT of 2005.
I strongly disagree.
For one thing it lacks the handling prowress of any Contour much less an SVT or early SE.
Well I think you a little off on that...
Having driven both, I have to agree with Demon. The extra 400-500lbs and significant torque steer prevent it from being in the same league. Like I've said before though, it is very nice and certainly a good option in 3.5 SE trim.
400-500lbs? Uh, hate to tell you this man but my SVT weighed in at about 3200 lbs, the SE-R is within 100 lbs of that marker, not sure where you're getting your info? 
The SE-R handles a great deal better than the SE model. Ask anyone who has driven both (including me). Much firmer suspension, and much better tires. The SVT I would say "feels" a bit better balanced, but as I've gotten more and more used to this car, I would say it feels different moreso than any actual performance difference. The SVT felt more connected, but I can take the turns at the same clip in the SE-R, which is saying something considering this car is considerably larger than the CDW27 platform was.
You did hit on the one major weakness of the SE-R, and that's availability of an LSD, same as the SVTC's...
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