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What about the workers' money? That stays here doesn't it?
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Originally posted by 04marauder:
What about the workers' money? That stays here doesn't it?
Point earned.
But, it still has a greater impact on fueling the foreign economy with every purchase.
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Originally posted by LilRedRocket:
Originally posted by 04marauder:
What about the workers' money? That stays here doesn't it?
Point earned.
But, it still has a greater impact on fueling the foreign economy with every purchase.
Most, if not all, of the major foreign automotive companies operate seperate subsidiaries here, so their income is still taxed by our government. So we're not missing out on the federal tax revenue.
So we're left with profit and the investments the companies make into the economy and job creation.
By far the vast majority of the capital investments made by Japanese automakers have been in the US. Nissan, Toyota, Honda, etc; they're all building manufacturing and assembly plants as fast as they possibly can in the US. Their Japanese facilities are upgraded but dollar-for-dollar, most of their money is going outside their nation. Meanwhile Ford and GM, et al; are putting their money into Asia and Mexico and creating jobs there.
It's just the nature of the beast. You're not going to be investing lots of capital into your own domestic market that you've been in for 50+ years because you've likely long ago saturated it. The only thing you're likely to be doing is making it more efficient, which usually means cutting jobs, so that you generate sufficient profits to further enhance your international business.
So the option is to "Buy American" -- and very likely buy mostly Mexican parts, assembled by Mexicans, with the profits going back into Mexico or China. Or "Buy Japanese" -- and likely buy something mostly made from US parts, assembled here in the US, with the profits largely coming back into US.
Or you could just buy whatever the hell you want to and not worry about who makes it.
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Originally posted by sigma:
Or you could just buy whatever the hell you want to and not worry about who makes it.
I think thats the best option. If I like the car, I'm going to buy the car, I always looked down on the poeple who slapped those "buy American" bumper stickers on their rusty old beat up 1989 Ford f-150's. Look at a 1989 toyota truck.... there is a difrence in quality, sad but true. 
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Interesting... My mother has an Altima 3.5 SE and my dad has a G35 coupe, so I have a pretty good basis to compare. I would have to say that the Altima is great for under 25k, but for more than that, the G35 is not even comparable. The fit and finish is significantly better and its a driver's car. The Altima, while a great daily driver, is a little too big and heavy for my tastes. Lots of mods available for either though... 
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Originally posted by gsxr907:
All I am saying is this SE-R is the CSVT of 2005.
I strongly disagree.
For one thing it lacks the handling prowress of any Contour much less an SVT or early SE.
For another it's ugly.
The do both have an excellent V6. That's a common bond.
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I would rather have a RWD over a RWD because living in MN were we have snow for sometimes 7 months out of the year, it kind of sucks driving RWD.
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Originally posted by LilRedRocket:
Originally posted by sigma:
Or you could just buy whatever the hell you want to and not worry about who makes it.
I think thats the best option. If I like the car, I'm going to buy the car, I always looked down on the poeple who slapped those "buy American" bumper stickers on their rusty old beat up 1989 Ford f-150's. Look at a 1989 toyota truck.... there is a difrence in quality, sad but true.
Most of the toyotas are still running, but they are usually on the verge of rusting in two, literally. I have an 89 F-150 (minus the bumper sticker) and it is the rustiest truck ever. But It runs great, still has power windows and locks and isn't going to fall apart physically like the toyota and its cheap asian metal. When it comes to cars. Foreign is a good choice. Trucks however, i will never own one and be proud about it (besides tacomas cause they are pretty when laying frame LOL)
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Originally posted by ScottK:
Originally posted by gsxr907:
Watch out!!!!
My new ride is 2005 Altima SE-R
Tell you what they did this car right!
If you are looking to replace Csvt-hands down this is it.
260 hp nice
Big Brakes
18 inch wheels that look Great!
Yeah - a bit spendy though (29,880).
I'd get a base 3.5 SE and save myself 6 grand, then spend maybe 2k on intake, exhaust and struts and be more than happy. 250 hp aint to bad for a base price of 23k!
And no ricer SE-R badges either!
Seriously, if I'm up around 30k anyway I'd start looking at a 298 hp G35 instead (30,600).
Scott, are you me? Absolute ditto.
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Now that I've read through, here are some more unsolicited remarks to ignore:
1. I like the new Mustang, but it's still a coupe with a tight rear seat, cheap interior materials, and a live axle at the rear. Fun car, but not in the same league as, oh, a G35 of any shape. Or a 300hp STi for that matter.
2. What's the "new" SVT-C? I'd pick the MS6, first off, TC'd I4 be damned. But that's just me.
3. The regular Altima 3.5 SE has an awesome powerplant, but is a bit plodding. When I saw that an SE-R was coming out, I was excited until I saw the price. When you climb to that price point, there are a lot of choices as good or better than the SE-R, at least on paper.
4. I'm not knocking anybody's decision, here. Somebody mentioned FWD as an advantage in a snowy climate. Great. At $30k, I want RWD or AWD on my next sedan. When I compare sporty sedans around $30k, I see a lot of better choices for me. The G35 is obvious, as it is a Nissan with similar components in a different/superior configuration, etc. etc. (Oh, and btw, the sedan is lighter than the coupe.)
Function before fashion.
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