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Originally posted by chrisilversvt:
Originally posted by SweetSVT99:
So let me get this straight...
You overprice your mediocre product and sue your customers, but you can't figure out why your sales are dropping?
Makes sense to me. 
i think that pretty much sums it up
Yup, I have to agree. 
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Originally posted by Renee:
Originally posted by chrisilversvt:
Originally posted by SweetSVT99:
So let me get this straight...
You overprice your mediocre product and sue your customers, but you can't figure out why your sales are dropping?
Makes sense to me.
i think that pretty much sums it up
Yup, I have to agree.
Me too.
And I would vote for Stewie.
My mom always says "they said the price of CD's would fall when they first introduced them and the prices have not fallen" and she is right. Plus the music they have is total scheiss. I buy Jazz albums and other "real" or creative artists but they push all this MTV crap on us and expect us to pay for it. Then when they fight downloading by allowing us to pay for songs and download them legally they only release crap and make it 79 cents a song in some cases, again total scheiss!
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i don't get it...
if people are flying in droves to the iPOD/iTunes mantra - wouldn't these companies be making BILLIONS more?
$1/song x 15 songs per CD = $15/CD!!!
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it's greed...we have artists (worth hundreds of millions) and the RIAA (worth billions!) and all they're worried about is how much more money they would have is people didn't pirate music. These people are so rich they'll never have to worry about money ever for the rest of their lives...nor will their families for generations to come!
The day I worry about taking a dollar out of the RIAA's pocket, or any other artist for that matter, is the day they throw a shovel of dirt on my face.
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I don't mind buying new cds from Best Buy on the release day for $9.99 (or cheaper for newer groups just getting started).
The joke is the RIAA wanting you to pay $8 for a three song EP or $16 for an eight song, thirty year old classic rock CD.
I can do nothing but smile when a successful band built itself up by word of mouth and internet sharing and is truly grateful of its fanbase for that.
While we're bashing the RIAA, why not mention ClearChannel?
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i'm lost here....what makes a jazz artist any more "real" than someone else in the music industry????????.......i find certain hip hop artists to be just as real as some saxaphone slingin' "artist"......point being there is just as much crappy hip hop as there is rock,pop,r&b,country........and jazz,so you cant say that its one music genre or anothers fault...its just ignorant
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Great thread! I recently started getting mtv at my house cuz the cable company took the filter out for a while ( I just have local cable )
So after watching a few MTV Cribbs episodes, it is just retarded how many times Ive seen some sh*tty "artist" point toward a porsche or something in their driveway and say with pride "my manager bought me that", as in their manager from their label... The amount of money circulating around people like 50 and other no talent waste of spaces is just unbelievable!!
Cribbs is a wake up call to anyone thinking that when you download free tunes, Metallica will starve to death, or baby jesus will cry or some sh*t... it makes you realize that even small time musicians have more money than the common person can even understand
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In addition to the afore-mentioned items, this is also the same RIAA that likes to put copy-protection on their CDs, so legitimate owners can't even make copies for their own use! When I pay 10-15 bucks for a freakin' CD I sure as heck don't want to have the original sliding around getting scratched in my car! Bastages.  If they had things their way, they would probably "license" a song to you like software companies license you their software. You wouldn't really own it, you could just us it as they saw fit. Hmm. Sounds about like what they are doing... 
How many of you know that it is against the law for stores, restaurants, etc. to play background music, even from radio stations, without paying ASCAP (or one of those organizations') fees? That falls under the "public performance" category. I'd say they've all got a pretty good racket going...
Sympathy factor: 1.000x10^-1337
...And don't even get me started on commercial-infested, heavy-rotation, safe-playlist, cookie-cutter, voice-tracked FM radio like Cheap Channel, et al... All I can say is, thank the Lord in heaven above for the internet and streaming audio!
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Originally posted by tour96se:
i'm lost here....what makes a jazz artist any more "real" than someone else in the music industry????????.......i find certain hip hop artists to be just as real as some saxaphone slingin' "artist"......point being there is just as much crappy hip hop as there is rock,pop,r&b,country........and jazz,so you cant say that its one music genre or anothers fault...its just ignorant
No I understand that. I was more pointing to what I was willing to pay for. Artists who create their own music because it is beautiful or out of creative inspiration, not music that is created to sell. The pop music that is created so that music makers can make millions, not to create art. I am not saying rap or hip hop is bad; I do listen to it. Just the stuff that is on the charts is mostly crap, IMO, and I would never pay for that crap. I listen to pretty much any music as long as it is good. I just find it hard to find anything good because of all the pop crap that is thrown at us. As soon as big record companies get their hands on anything they turn the artist to crap in a lot of cases. In jazz for example, the companies don't make a lot of money on it so they don't invest the time into making the artist more marketable like they do pop music. That's just they way I see it, correct me if I am wrong; I have been know to be.
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Originally posted by Wien_Sean:
Originally posted by tour96se:
i'm lost here....what makes a jazz artist any more "real" than someone else in the music industry????????.......i find certain hip hop artists to be just as real as some saxaphone slingin' "artist"......point being there is just as much crappy hip hop as there is rock,pop,r&b,country........and jazz,so you cant say that its one music genre or anothers fault...its just ignorant
No I understand that. I was more pointing to what I was willing to pay for. Artists who create their own music because it is beautiful or out of creative inspiration, not music that is created to sell. The pop music that is created so that music makers can make millions, not to create art. I am not saying rap or hip hop is bad; I do listen to it. Just the stuff that is on the charts is mostly crap, IMO, and I would never pay for that crap. I listen to pretty much any music as long as it is good. I just find it hard to find anything good because of all the pop crap that is thrown at us. As soon as big record companies get their hands on anything they turn the artist to crap in a lot of cases. In jazz for example, the companies don't make a lot of money on it so they don't invest the time into making the artist more marketable like they do pop music. That's just they way I see it, correct me if I am wrong; I have been know to be.
no i'm not saying your wrong, i happen to agree with you that the "top 40" stations and the music they play is garbadge....usaully, and if its not they play the hell out of a song until it is 
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