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he's gonna do FOUR YEARS for his stupid friend cutting in line at a pizza joint. people like this deserve to be in prison. what a dumb@ss!


btw, my video just keeps saying "loading video"
agh, nevermind. just firefox trippin'. explorer handled it. damn computer bs.

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Originally posted by Kokopellian:
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Probably because all the bystanders were half the guys size.




Doesn't take a big guy to stop a fight from happening. Especially when there's more than one.




You're living in a little place I like to call fantasy.


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Originally posted by todras:
Originally posted by Kokopellian:
Originally posted by todras:
Probably because all the bystanders were half the guys size.




Doesn't take a big guy to stop a fight from happening. Especially when there's more than one.




You're living in a little place I like to call fantasy.




Fantasy? There are a lot of things that could have been done. Someone could have said something. It's easy to neutralize an escalating situation with words my friend. It wasn't like that entire situation happend in seconds with no time to react. Tell you what. Let the masses continue being a bystanders. I'll stick to what works for me.


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Originally posted by Kokopellian:
Originally posted by todras:
Originally posted by Kokopellian:
Originally posted by todras:
Probably because all the bystanders were half the guys size.




Doesn't take a big guy to stop a fight from happening. Especially when there's more than one.




You're living in a little place I like to call fantasy.




Fantasy? There are a lot of things that could have been done. Someone could have said something. It's easy to neutralize an escalating situation with words my friend. It wasn't like that entire situation happend in seconds with no time to react. Tell you what. Let the masses continue being a bystanders. I'll stick to what works for me.




I like to see you go up against a 300lb monster with "words". He's a criminal incapable of rational thought. I mean he even stole the guys cell phone. You cannot reason with people who lack the intelligence to reason in the first place.

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Looked like he busted though the door and cold cocked him to me. Not sure what video you watched. Even with five other ppl I'm not doing anything against a guy that size w/o a weapon. And what words are you you going use on him? Excuse me sir but could you stop punching that other gentleman. LMFAO! The only way I'm going to do something in a situation like that is if the guy was close to my size. And I know you'd do the same no matter what you say.


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Originally posted by Kokopellian:
Originally posted by todras:
Originally posted by Kokopellian:
Originally posted by todras:
Probably because all the bystanders were half the guys size.




Doesn't take a big guy to stop a fight from happening. Especially when there's more than one.




You're living in a little place I like to call fantasy.




Fantasy? There are a lot of things that could have been done. Someone could have said something. It's easy to neutralize an escalating situation with words my friend. It wasn't like that entire situation happend in seconds with no time to react. Tell you what. Let the masses continue being a bystanders. I'll stick to what works for me.




You have to admit, though, shock can do a lot to make the onlookers freeze. Call it the "WTF?" effect. And the report said that the lady also went after the manager who was trying for de-escalation, if I remember correctly.


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Originally posted by Kokopellian:
Originally posted by todras:
Originally posted by Kokopellian:
Originally posted by todras:
Probably because all the bystanders were half the guys size.




Doesn't take a big guy to stop a fight from happening. Especially when there's more than one.




You're living in a little place I like to call fantasy.




Fantasy? There are a lot of things that could have been done. Someone could have said something. It's easy to neutralize an escalating situation with words my friend. It wasn't like that entire situation happend in seconds with no time to react. Tell you what. Let the masses continue being a bystanders. I'll stick to what works for me.




I think going up against drug dealers w/guns, as well as having encountered 300lb. monsters in my life personally qualifies me to say what I said. Would I have directly engaged the big guy? No! I wouldn't have even let it come to that. Like I said. The events happend in a time frame that allowed measures to be taken. Look at the tape again. It was edited. We're talking minutes here not seconds. I guess I'm just one of those people that see things differently.


Originally posted by todras:
Looked like he busted though the door and cold cocked him to me. Not sure what video you watched. Even with five other ppl I'm not doing anything against a guy that size w/o a weapon. And what words are you you going use on him? Excuse me sir but could you stop punching that other gentleman. LMFAO! The only way I'm going to do something in a situation like that is if the guy was close to my size. And I know you'd do the same no matter what you say.




Tod, read my comments above.... You know nothing of me so you don't KNOW what'd I'd do no matter what I say.


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Originally posted by Jeb Hoge:
And the report said that the lady also went after the manager who was trying for de-escalation, if I remember correctly.




Exactly, these people would not be reasoned with, they were looking for a fight. Anyone who would have stepped in to try to neutralize the situation would have simply been beaten to a pulp.

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Originally posted by Kokopellian:
Originally posted by WorldTour:
Originally posted by Kokopellian:
Originally posted by todras:
Probably because all the bystanders were half the guys size.




Doesn't take a big guy to stop a fight from happening. Especially when there's more than one.




Indifference of good men.... where'd I hear that before.




All I'm saying is that it's just getting pretty freakin' disgusting watching news all the time where people could do something as opposed to idly standing by. It happens time and time again. You don't need to be a hero for goodness sake. But watching crimes being committed because one doesn't want to get involed is just another reason our society is going to crap. You see vids like this all the time on the news now and it's just sickening. I don't even watch T.V. news anymore. You just get force fed bad news all the time.




From what i learned in psychology it's not an intentional response not to do something. It has to do with some of the Same reason that hostages in Russia were unable to do anything to the terrorists that held them in the theatre.
Or why when someone has a gun to your head and you know they are about to kill you, you STILL stand there or are still on ur knees praying for something rather than action.

An acion that was seen on that tape is almost surreal, paralyzing for bystanders comprehending what is going on.

On another note, i woulda jumped in!!! (so i say...)


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Apparently, the thing that instigated all this, according to CNN was when the man said ""i'm gonna be a little late some lady in camoflauge just jumped in front of us." into his cellphone, the woman overheard and started going nuts.

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