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Originally posted by 99contourdriver:
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Also, how hard are these to install?
Not hard at all. I took my cluster out in 15 minutes. The hardest part might be slipping the gauges over the needles, if thats even possible. Hopefully we don't have to remove speedo and tach needles to do this.
When I did mine for my Zetec from procarparts.com, It was pretty easy. I just slid mine around the needle (very carefully) and the rest was cake..now I would assume it would be the same for these. The only prob I had was the first time I glued them on, I had a couple of small raised spots on the speedo guage and the needle kept sticking, took it back apart, re-glued, haven't had a prob since. 
With the SVT gauges you have to remove the needles...they "WILL NOT" slip over them. Then the fun begins getting them correct again. If you look at the needle on the SVT speedo and tach they have a small tail on the back side of the needle. Plus the round part of the needle is bigger then the hole and even if you didn't have the little tail it still will not fit through the hole on the overlays. There are a bunch of old post about this and the different way people went about getting the needles back in the correct place. You can also go to a dealer and have them re-calibrate your tach and speedo if you like for about $60+/-
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I wasn't able to slip the gauges over the tach or speedo needles. I just got the RPM needle to what I thought was right and adjusted on the car (set at what should be correct idle and see if it shifts around redline). Then I paced someone at 35 and placed needle on speedo (didn't press hard enuff so it's sorta bouncy when bass hits, but it doesn't change accuracy). We then checked at around ~60 if it was correct with that same car and another. The dealer I contacted (good dealer) said (and the guy replied at 12:15am, I had sent the email at midnite) that he couldn't do anything as far as calibration goes, but gave me contact info for a company that might could. I posted the info a long time ago, and don't have it stored in my emails or I'd post it again.
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Originally posted by scottd60:
Originally posted by 99contourdriver:
Originally posted by BURNTU2:
Originally posted by HoustonBullitt:
Also, how hard are these to install?
Not hard at all. I took my cluster out in 15 minutes. The hardest part might be slipping the gauges over the needles, if thats even possible. Hopefully we don't have to remove speedo and tach needles to do this.
When I did mine for my Zetec from procarparts.com, It was pretty easy. I just slid mine around the needle (very carefully) and the rest was cake..now I would assume it would be the same for these. The only prob I had was the first time I glued them on, I had a couple of small raised spots on the speedo guage and the needle kept sticking, took it back apart, re-glued, haven't had a prob since.
With the SVT gauges you have to remove the needles...they "WILL NOT" slip over them. Then the fun begins getting them correct again. If you look at the needle on the SVT speedo and tach they have a small tail on the back side of the needle. Plus the round part of the needle is bigger then the hole and even if you didn't have the little tail it still will not fit through the hole on the overlays. There are a bunch of old post about this and the different way people went about getting the needles back in the correct place. You can also go to a dealer and have them re-calibrate your tach and speedo if you like for about $60+/-
Why not. The ones that I had puchased off of E-Bay for my SVT slid right on over the needles. All I did was position the temp and tach needles to point in the same direction and the gauge face slid right on over. You can pull the tach & speedo neddle stops out along with the trip meter reset button to make it much easier.
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I remember reading a how-to on this and it said you do not need to remove the needles. I will need to find this.
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According to SRP, they are designing the faces to be installed without removing the needles. This is why they needed a complete cluster and not just the gauge faces.
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The whole point of me having to ship them a cluster was for them to test fit the gauges and make sure we didn't have to remove the needles to put them on. Granted it only cost me $6 to ship, but it would be a lot of wasted time if that step ends up being worthless. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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When I installed my gauges a while back on my SVT, I did have to remove the tach and speedo needles. There was no way possible for them to fit over the needles.
I'm not saying that these will be the same way because it is a different manufacturer. It all depends on how large they make the holes for them.
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Originally posted by CSVT1214:
When I installed my gauges a while back on my SVT, I did have to remove the tach and speedo needles. There was no way possible for them to fit over the needles.
I'm not saying that these will be the same way because it is a different manufacturer. It all depends on how large they make the holes for them.
This is how mine were as well...I did the same as kremit to get mine close. My tach seems to right on but my speed currently reads about 5-10 MPH fast.
If the holes for the needles are to big it will show and look like junk. The set I currently have there is no way to tell other then the new night time color.
This is not a concern for me...it wasn't a big deal at all. I would rather they fit propperly even it removing the needles is required then make them sloppy to avoid this step 
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2000 Contour SVT #1464
Mustang Dyno: 171.6hp/145.3lb
Dynojet Dyno: 171.1hp/148.9lb
1989 20th Anniversary Turbo T/A "Indy 500 Pace Car"
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Originally posted by scottd60:
Originally posted by CSVT1214:
When I installed my gauges a while back on my SVT, I did have to remove the tach and speedo needles. There was no way possible for them to fit over the needles.
I'm not saying that these will be the same way because it is a different manufacturer. It all depends on how large they make the holes for them.
This is how mine were as well...I did the same as kremit to get mine close. My tach seems to right on but my speed currently reads about 5-10 MPH fast.
If the holes for the needles are to big it will show and look like junk. The set I currently have there is no way to tell other then the new night time color.
This is not a concern for me...it wasn't a big deal at all. I would rather they fit propperly even it removing the needles is required then make them sloppy to avoid this step
Yeah, trust me guys. Take it from me and scottd.
It will look like crap if these are the type you can install without removing the needles. The hole will be really large and look like crap during the day.
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Great, so pretty much these are going to be a beeeeeeaatch to install
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