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I heard/read somewhere that you're not supposed to put their nose in it... 
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Originally posted by Bullet:
I heard/read somewhere that you're not supposed to put their nose in it...
Yeah, I didn't want him to, but he claims to "know how to train dogs, I lived on a farm"........  We never trained our small pup like that, but oh well. He didn't do it this morning when Jack attempted to pee on the floor, he just told him NO and took him outside. Ah well.
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Originally posted by Renee:
It's a huge crate, and he's still a small pup, so he's got plenty of room in it.
You're also not suppose to put a dog/pup in a large crate. Or a crate much larger than them. Otherwise, they'll find a corner and do their business. The crate is suppose to be large enough for them to be comfortable in but not too large. That way, they treat it as their den and instinctively won't soil it.
I personally have tried everything under the sun to keep my nine month old Standard Poodle from biting while he's playing. From yelping, to growling, to spanking with newspaper, to tapping on the nose. Nothing works. It drives me crazy and I'll be honest, I get quite upset when he bites hard enough for it to be painful. I've owned serveral dogs prior to this including Rotts and Labs and never had this problem. Either I'm not spending enough time with him or I'm going to have to call in the proffessionals. Something has got to give! 
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Originally posted by SVTNupe:
Originally posted by Renee:
It's a huge crate, and he's still a small pup, so he's got plenty of room in it.
You're also not suppose to put a dog/pup in a large crate. Or a crate much larger than them. Otherwise, they'll find a corner and do their business. The crate is suppose to be large enough for them to be comfortable in but not too large. That way, they treat it as their den and instinctively won't soil it.
I personally have tried everything under the sun to keep my nine month old Standard Poodle from biting while he's playing. From yelping, to growling, to spanking with newspaper, to tapping on the nose. Nothing works. It drives me crazy and I'll be honest, I get quite upset when he bites hard enough for it to be painful. I've owned serveral dogs prior to this including Rotts and Labs and never had this problem. Either I'm not spending enough time with him or I'm going to have to call in the proffessionals. Something has got to give!
I have this same problem right now with my 9 month old Boxer. He is perfectly house-trained, and is in classes now for obedience, and is doing very well with that, but he cant seem to get over biting while playing. We talked with our trainer the other day, and her advice is to put a puppy pinch collar on him when playing with him, and when he bites, to "tug" on it with your finger. She said NOT to use a leash, because this would be dangerous and overkill. The puppy needs to know there are negative consequences to biting fingers.
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I think you're right about the crate size, SVTNupe.
About play-biting: I read in a dog training book that if your dog play-bites, you should walk away from him, or turn your back on him. He will learn that his play-bites end his interaction with you. Saying "No!" or spanking the dog does not usually work, according to the book I read.
Dogs really need their owner to be the dominant figure. If your dog is play-biting you, it may be confused as to whether it is the dominant figure, and it is testing to see who is the "top dog". You may need to retrain your dog to establish the proper dominance/submission relationship with him. Dogs are usually unhappy if they are unsure who is the dominant figure.
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Originally posted by caltour:
I think you're right about the crate size, SVTNupe.
About play-biting: I read in a dog training book that if your dog play-bites, you should walk away from him, or turn your back on him. He will learn that his play-bites end his interaction with you. Saying "No!" or spanking the dog does not usually work, according to the book I read.
Dogs really need their owner to be the dominant figure. If your dog is play-biting you, it may be confused as to whether it is the dominant figure, and it is testing to see who is the "top dog". You may need to retrain your dog to establish the proper dominance/submission relationship with him. Dogs are usually unhappy if they are unsure who is the dominant figure.
I do all of this. He has a pinch/choke collar that I'll tug on and domininantly say 'no'. I'll even roll him over on his back get in his face growl, etc then walk away with my back turned. Nothing works. He knows I'm the masta and will immediately submit when I'm in his face. I'm going to sign up for some classes. I just didn't think it was necessary being that I thought I had raised enough dogs to tackle these problems. Guess not. 
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The best way is if you have an older housetrained dog for it to spend time with. I have a lab and she learned in a couple of days by following our old Cockapoo around.
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Originally posted by in the shop:
cetch them in the act and use the loud pissed off mean voice every time, then when ever you have them outside to go give them a treat, it has worked for all my dogs, 3 right now, in a probably 2000-3000 SQ Ft house
this would be my approach. and i HIGHLY recommend crate training. it helps a ton when you have to leave the house. the dog will not #1 or #2 in the crate once they realize that it's where they sleep too! do not use the crate as a punnishment or as a bathroom. and try to get them to make some signal when they have to poo or pee. we used a bell with our dog when he was really young. sometimes you just have to read their signs, tho.
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When i got my dog, I just put newspaper down. They're going to pick a spot to go on their own anyway, so they'll probably not use the newspaper the first few times. Once they pick their spot, put the paper there. When she used the paper I gave the usual praise. Then I just moved the paper closer to the door, and eventually outside. Once she went outside, it was over. Correct them on any accidents they have inthe house and praise when they go outside. A dog in the wild wouldn't crap near where it sleeps, so you just gotta show them outside is the place to go. It took like 2 weeks. Also frequent walks will help, cause chances are the dog wil get the urge to go and you can praise him for it.
Don't yell, don't get mad and hit the dog - Especially on the nose! Imagine someone coming by and kicking you in the nuts. Even if you just "lightly tap" them in the nose, flick your nuts and tell me how it feels. Yes, I have hit my dog for things like chewing holes in walls and such, but never on or about the head and face. If you're going to hit them do it on their butt, and it's probably better to use a rolled up newspaper or something that will make alot of noise, that's what really gets their attention. I haven't had to strike my dog in years, and if she is ever misbehaved enough a paper cracked on a nearby table or chair will do the trick.
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