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One of the very first things to do is to teach your dog to heel and come. As long as you teach that first you will have control of them, the rest is really just parlour tricks. Dogs pretty much learn to go outside on their own, just takes them some time really.
Positive reinforcement is definitely the way to go, but remember you don't have to spare the rod.
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Originally posted by Christian:
Dogs pretty much learn to go outside on their own, just takes them some time really.
i strongly disagree with this. just ask ozzy. 
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Originally posted by Christian:
Positive reinforcement is definitely the way to go, but remember you don't have to spare the rod.
I would 100,000% disagree with your "you don't have to spare the rod" statement. Hitting a dog because it doesn't do what you want it to do is YOUR fault, not theirs. It means you need to figure out a different way to get your point across. Hitting will create a dog that is fearful and a dog that is afraid is a dog that bites. Let's say you get angry when your dog doesn't come when you call him, and you hit him when he finally comes to you. All that's gonna teach the dog is that if he comes to you when called he's going to get hit. Good luck training that way...
A consistent schedule and plenty of praise when the business is done outside is really all a puppy needs. There are certainly going to be accidents in the house along the way but you're learning at the same time the puppy is. Good luck, Renee...
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You don't beat them. You spank em or tap their nose. My dogs don't bite.
I don't bite either and I was spanked when I was kid. I fully believe in spanking. It works a lot better than this crap that hippies try to push onto people about talk to your kid. A kid can't comprehend that stuff, they comprehend a bit of pain (and it's more a psychological thing as kids think the pain is worse than it is). Now slapping/hitting a kid causes a completely different reaction than traditional spanking.
Of course positive praise is ALSO needed. It's a combined thing.
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
You don't beat them. You spank em or tap their nose. My dogs don't bite.
I don't bite either and I was spanked when I was kid. I fully believe in spanking. It works a lot better than this crap that hippies try to push onto people about talk to your kid. A kid can't comprehend that stuff, they comprehend a bit of pain (and it's more a psychological thing as kids think the pain is worse than it is). Now slapping/hitting a kid causes a completely different reaction than traditional spanking.
Of course positive praise is ALSO needed. It's a combined thing.
no it's not. negative re-enforcement, time and time again, has shown to not work on dogs. lots of studies done on this in the psych world. and you can't compare dogs to kids. with a dog, you're essentially using PR to create a conditioned response, eventually creating a habit that the dog works within (they are very much creatures of habit).
kids have the ability to reason, dogs do not. 
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Oh my God!!! This is ludricous ... it's pretty much between the two. Spare the rod and you will spoil the child ... if there is no rod there is no discipline.
Happy medium chaps! Dog's don't have 'consciouscness' like humans so purely positivey does not work (doesn't on kids either, but what the hey!). You have to mix it up a little ... think carrott & stick.
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
You don't beat them. You spank em or tap their nose. My dogs don't bite.
You should never touch a dogs nose (in that manner), it is more sensitive than you could ever imagine. We have never had a dog bite in our household, and the dogs have never been punished physically, tied up, or confined as punishment.
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Take the dog out A LOT! Tell the dog to go *insert word* (potty or whatever you chose to use) and when the dog goes, praise the h**l out of it. Tell the dog good girl (or boy) and use a happy, silly voice.
Very good advice! Also it is not a potty training issue but labs LOVE to chew, so be prepared for that.
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Originally posted by MxRacerCam:
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
You don't beat them. You spank em or tap their nose. My dogs don't bite.
I don't bite either and I was spanked when I was kid. I fully believe in spanking. It works a lot better than this crap that hippies try to push onto people about talk to your kid. A kid can't comprehend that stuff, they comprehend a bit of pain (and it's more a psychological thing as kids think the pain is worse than it is). Now slapping/hitting a kid causes a completely different reaction than traditional spanking.
Of course positive praise is ALSO needed. It's a combined thing.
no it's not. negative re-enforcement, time and time again, has shown to not work on dogs. lots of studies done on this in the psych world. and you can't compare dogs to kids. with a dog, you're essentially using PR to create a conditioned response, eventually creating a habit that the dog works within (they are very much creatures of habit).
kids have the ability to reason, dogs do not.
BS. I have a dog. It doesn't piss on the carpet. It's happy and loving. Doesn't bite. Take your science else where, I go on real life.
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Originally posted by Pete D:
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
You don't beat them. You spank em or tap their nose. My dogs don't bite.
You should never touch a dogs nose (in that manner), it is more sensitive than you could ever imagine. We have never had a dog bite in our household, and the dogs have never been punished physically, tied up, or confined as punishment.
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Take the dog out A LOT! Tell the dog to go *insert word* (potty or whatever you chose to use) and when the dog goes, praise the h**l out of it. Tell the dog good girl (or boy) and use a happy, silly voice.
Very good advice! Also it is not a potty training issue but labs LOVE to chew, so be prepared for that.
I know exactly how sensitive a dog's nose is and will never hit it hard. But it damn sure get's them trained good. Dogs, by nature, are wild animals. You think you can bring an animal into your house and not train it and it be perfect?
Again, a quick, soft tap is enough to let them know right from wrong. Dogs are just like kids. It works the same. Spankings work. My dogs don't bite. I don't bite. And my dogs have more respect for our family and are VERY loyal than you can imagine. I also have more respect for people than most the kids you see coming outta houses these days. You see them not saying yes sir or yes mam. Or thank you and your welcome. I do all of that, I don't bite, and I'm not afraid of anything. Take your psychology elsewhere. What works, WORKS. People doing studies are looking for a certain conclusion and will always "find" that desired outcome. You have to try yourself to figure out what is best. My family and I have. Obviously there is no convincing anybody. I just watched my neighbors dogs break outta their fences and I try to catch them so they don't get run over but they try biting me. Ooo and they were never "physically punished". Naw, but they're great dogs. 
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WOW, lots of differing opinions on this subject. We got lucky and the pup is nearly housebroken. He did piddle a smidge last night on our carpet, hub told him no and put his nose in it before steam cleaning it up. LOL. He didn't hit him or anything. We will just have to watch him more carefully, otherwise he's doing great. The kids are loving him. We'll just keep on with taking him out every hour, except when he's crated at night. Once he's completely housebroken, no more crate at night for him. This is just until he's fully trained. It's a huge crate, and he's still a small pup, so he's got plenty of room in it. Hopefully we can take a pic of Blackjack today and I will post it. He's a cutie. Thanks again for all the advice.
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