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I was visiting a friend this weekend who had the June issue of Hot Rod magazine with a multi filter test including AfE,K&N, Holley, etc. and there was no real difference between any of them. Alex
I'll try and post the Dyno Charts. But up to date I don't know of any filter that has made 8hp@wheels alone on a practically bone stock SVT. What car was the filter tested on in Hot Rod magazine? One thing I can say is the Filter will definately outflow a K&N or Holley. It's been flowbenched and tested against similar K&N units by FPS that builds and manufacters race parts for street to full race machines and by AFE themselves. The results were shocking in some cases. In a single case, the AFE flowed 85cfm more than the same K&N unit on a PowerStroke Turbo Diesel where every bit of airflow makes a difference.The overall build quality of the AFE is also a testament to there product. The Filter front and rear housing is 100% silicone which assists in helping it conform and seal better over a longer period of time than rubber and for overall durability and + it looks good to. wink


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Well I did some road Tests comparing the Roar and the AFE. I found some interesting finds. The Roar seems to work great with the Factory Computer programming and performs great with the SAFC set to 0 on high settings ( voltage reading for the Roar is about .88 at WOT ). On the contrary the AFE falls flat on it's face with the factory programming because it flows so much more air apparently ( voltage reading for the AFE is at about .82 at WOT ) Clearly the AFE is leaning the car out alot and for that reason it required tuning with the SAFC. Realize that my exhaust system, optimized TB assist greatly in a lean condition and also the fact that the AFE filter I installed is 8" in height. After tuning the SAFC oh what a difference it made. Now for some Tests. I normally test my car just a few miles down the road from where I live. There is a very long strip of road that has no houses and few cars. I've got an area that I test from point A telephone pole to B telephone pole, just a tad over 1/4 mile. With the AFE revving at 3000rpm and launching I would hit 100mph at point B, this was don't a number of times. With the Roar installed I'd pull up to point A, rev to 3000 and launch and I could only hit 97 after numerous Tries. I'd like to add that previously I tested the Roar against the KKM and the Roar was hands down the winner. So what's the verdict. The AFE has demonstrated it's ability to flow substantial amounts of air and perform superbly with tuning on a larger AFE.

I've concluded that if you don't plan on modding the hell out of your Tour' and don't plan on installing a SAFC or similar FMU, I'd reccomend a smaller 6" or 7" AFE Filter. wink


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Do you have any pictures of it?

Good info!

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Do you have any pictures of it?

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You can go to AFE Filter and they have info there on there filters as well as pics. There is no Filter System for our cars, only a replacement filter and a Universal Full Velocity Stack Filter the one that was tested, is being used and I'm selling. wink


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[b]Do you have any pictures of it?

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You can go to AFE Filter and they have info there on there filters as well as pics. There is no Filter System for our cars, only a replacement filter and a Universal Full Velocity Stack Filter the one that was tested, is being used and I'm selling. wink [/b]
Yea I know that...Mainly I'm just curious what color the filter is? From what I have seen on the website it looks like the filter is Red...I know thats a bit knitpicky but I just don't want to have too many colors under my hood smile


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I was visiting a friend this weekend who had the June issue of Hot Rod magazine with a multi filter test including AfE,K&N, Holley, etc. and there was no real difference between any of them. Alex
1) The max hp gain when comparing the Monster Flow to the AFE was 7.8 hp@6300 rpms. The peak hp gain was 3.2 hp at 6600 rpms. The people at the Dyno shop were just as surprised as you or I. They feel, after reviewing the data on their computer that the filter alone was worth an average of almost 4 hp from 4200 rpms to the redline
2) I also added a new MAF : C&L 73mm, and the numbers were even better: 8.1hp gain at 5500rpms, average gain ( over stock MAFand Monster Flow) from 4200-6600 5.3 hp; peak
hp gain of 6.9hp
3) The filter is red .. and I had the same concerns about color, but you can put stripes on it and I would still want it.
In discussions with Henant, the tuner at the dyno shop, a freer exhaust, an S-AFC which is next, and some fine tuning, the filter/MAF combo may have a few more hp to give.
I am strongly considering switching back to my Injen intake pipe over the BAT .. I have been playing with it this week and the Injen seems to run smoother and definetly idles better .. although I am not sure why. jj

Just a post script: Micah has been great interms of helping with this change and following up ... even recommend a change in parts selection I wanted that saved me about $65 ..

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Am i missing something here?

In reguards to a ProM unit this is from the SP Motorsport Site, Micah already sent me an educational e:mail on exagerations and such but I just wanted you guys to see this and educate me-

Pro-Flow 75mm Bullet Mass Airflow Meter - Pro-Flow replacement meter for the Contour/Mystique/Cougar, including SVT. Adds 8-10hp for improved throttle response and top end performance. It's street legal, carries a 90 day money back guarantee, and lifetime warranty for materials and workmanship. Works with or without Kurtz True-Rev Induction kits and K&N filters. These are custom-ordered meters.

Now, this ProM with the AFE would do what now? Should I skip the ProM or get it? I'm a tad bit confused confused so help me out and educate me fellas.


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Quote from jcboeckl:
Yea I know that...Mainly I'm just curious what color the filer is? From what I have seen on the website it looks like the filter is Red...I know that a bit knitpicky but I just don't want to have too many colors uncer my hood

You just answered your own question??? The Filter's housing is Red, the filter element is kinda lime greenish looking, very nice, and very easy to see crap crammed in the channels of the filter like bugs for example, unlike the K&N which is on the dark red side and less visible. I personally love the way it looks in the engine bay!


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Nyceboi I'll say this, Granatelli does not want to do any calibrations for a Tour', apparently they had to many returns that he will only do it on the basis that the consumer will not return the product no matter what the results are. I thought this to be of interest to you or anyone else for that matter, unless of course you plan on using some type of Fuel Management Unit which in that case the ProM would be beneficial as well as the CnL which proved to work great with the AFE on a mostly stock SVT no FMU. The ProM can be purchased flanged and will bolt directly to your stock filter housing. I can always install a AFE filter in the stock air box as another option. Removing the Airbox and going to a non-flanged unit like CnL or even ProM will help you avoid the cost of purchasing a MAF adapter, about $40 after shipping, and if you fabricate a Heat Shield the results will be much more beneficial than with the airbox. Even with out a Heat Shield the car will still perform admirably.

So to answer your ? I can't say what results would be attained with a ProM and AFE, I know that Dan Nixon got 12hp @wheels with a 9" Cone Filter, ProM and accordians removed from inlet rubber pipe and fortunately in his case the MAF unit proved very beneficial making over 8hp @wheels, the filter made only a few ponies. Dan did have exhaust mods and other intake mods to support those gains so I really can't say what the MAF and filter in his case would have done if his car was mostly stock like jjost...Aloha, Micah wink


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so i dont need an maf adapter if i get a 75mm maf? hmmm, didn't know that. mirko's maf adapter is 95bucks and performance fords is like 70-80 bucks. yeah, i know there r other cheaper ones.


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