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#1171467 02/01/05 06:31 PM
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SCCA over view of a Road Rally.

http://www.scca.org/Rally/RoadRally.asp?IdS=078D67-D7D2C60&x=040|045&~=

As I posted already.


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It's kinda like a scavenger hunt, only you answer questions instead of collect items, and there's a set route to take.

For example, "what did the Mobil station on First street have posted as the price per gal of 89 octane"
or "how many garage doors can you count between A Street and B street".



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Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
What kind of events are you guys looking at if you don't want to attend the dyno? Jim and myself will both be there for most likely the full day, so if there are any suggenstions, I'll definitely look into them.



It doesn't have to be anything planned. If it's just an open day, so be it. But we will take suggestions on things to do in and around your town. I certainly don't need something to be SZ-sanctioned in order to do it. I get the feeling a 'road rally' would consist of doing 120mph everywhere anyways.

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Originally posted by Davo:
I get the feeling a 'road rally' would consist of doing 120mph everywhere anyways.




This was my concern. Fort Wayne Police are about as tight as a Dolphin's a$$. Didn't want to see people ruining a fun weekend with a ticket, as I did at SZ04 trying to catch up with Mikey Boy.

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Holy [censored] I'm glad ppl are reading the scca post on what it is. Yea let's plan something that involves illegal speed on public roads. I quit. Guess it's too hard to read. We only had a problem with one speeder. That was his doing and would have been responsible if he got caught. A R.R. is a test of wit not speed!


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there will be no 140mph runs during the rally.
who ever sets up the route does so going the speed limit.
they know how long it takes going the speed limit and approximatley how many miles it is to complete it.


part of the scoring is based on how close to the set time and mileage each team comes.



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exactly. i have help put on a road rally before, though not quite to scca rules. the rally we made was about an hour and a half long (ehh, maybe a little longer). we used clues for directions (if their was a huge boot billboard where you needed to turn left, the directions were something like "turn left at the size 12" or something like that). you have to go EXACTLY the speed limit the whole time. the people who put on the event have to run the course 3 or 4 times, slowing down or speeding up right at the speed limit signs. the average of those runs is the target time for the group.

everyone is started a few min. apart (scca rules i guess) with a driver, and as many navagaters as they want. the winner is the car that comes as close to the target time as possible. give 'em a trophy or somthing.

speeding results in a losing time, everytime.

oh, the roads we used in our rally were all out in the country, so stoplights and traffic were made as small of a problem as possible.


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Originally posted by todras:
Holy [censored] I'm glad ppl are reading the scca post on what it is. Guess it's too hard to read.




Holy [censored], I'm glad some of us actually have to work!! I don't have time to read every bit of literature on CEG believe it or not. Organizing an event like this isn't exactly a 10 minute daily routine either. I think Frenchblue did a nice job of summing it up by saying it is a scavenger hunt and told a little bit of detail on it. This is my only means of internet and I get on here periodicly to skim through and make updates if/when necessary. Next time I'll print off all of your links and take them home overnight to read

Ok, now that that's overwith.. I'll talk with Jim about setting up this Road Rally event.. As I've lived in this town my whole life, you can rest assured the map will be 100% accurate.

P.S. Take my attitude with a grain of salt. We just laid 15 people off, 4 people have quit in the last 2 weeks, and instead of hiring more people, the rest of us are absorbing their already huge workloads, ontop of our own. So yes, my bloodpressure level is probably through the roof!!

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Todd, this is the CEG, one would think you' be used to this
Originally posted by todras:
Holy [censored] I'm glad ppl are reading the scca post on what it is. Yea let's plan something that involves illegal speed on public roads. I quit. Guess it's too hard to read. We only had a problem with one speeder. That was his doing and would have been responsible if he got caught. A R.R. is a test of wit not speed!




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Originally posted by Y2KSVT:


Holy [censored], I'm glad some of us actually have to work!! I don't have time to read every bit of literature on CEG believe it or not. Organizing an event like this isn't exactly a 10 minute daily routine either.





Yea because I wouldn't know anything about that.


Originally posted by Y2KSVT:

Next time I'll print off all of your links and take them home overnight to read






Great piss poor attitude for someone planning a SZ. We're coming with ideas and this is your response?! I'll cut and paste the link I posted since it's apparently a huge chore to take a 5 minute read.

Two people (a driver and a navigator) in ordinary cars make up a rally team.

A RoadRally is traversed over public roads within the legal speed limit. The challenge is to drive on time, arriving at points along the route neither early nor late (it's NOT a race). Each team needs a simple watch which can be synchronized to match official time, as well as something to write on and with. Interior lighting (map lights, a flashlight, etc) is also a good idea for night rallies.

After receiving and browsing the route book, cars start at one minute intervals. The first section, a short 10-15 mile route, is called the "Odometer Calibration Zone," and is used to calibrate the rally car's odometer to the official mileage used to measure the course by the rallymaster. After this section, the competition really begins, as you must follow the course using the instructions in the route book, as well as the general instructions that govern the rally. Meanwhile, you must also stay on time, based on the average speeds given in the instructions at various points through the routes.

A Contest of Precision

At various points, unknown to the competitors, timing controls (checkpoints) will be encountered. Since the rallymaster knows the exact distance and speeds you should have traveled to reach the checkpoint, the "perfect time" of arrival can be calculated. You are timed at the moment you reach the control, and will receive penalty points for arriving either early OR late. You are then given information about the last leg, as well as a time to start the next leg, and a clean start to challenge the clock. This is a contest of precision, not a race, and each leg is scored separately. If you are early or late at one control, you cannot make up for it by being late or early at the next. At the conclusion, scores for all legs are totaled, and the lowest score wins (just like golf). Sound easy? Well, just as in golf, it takes practice to get very good scores.

Regardless of how well you score, rallying is a lot of fun if you like to spend time in your car, see some scenery and spend time with congenial people. Rallies usually end at a location where munchies and beverages are available. You can join the rest of the crowd in discussing how the event went and how you did, while waiting for the final scores to be calculated and trophies to be awarded.

Events For All Levels of Experience

A Touring rally is a time-speed-distance contest with straight-forward course following. There is never a deliberate attempt to lead the contestant off course, and typically redundant/confirming instructions are provided if there is an apparent opportunity to get lost. Since there is less challenge in staying on course, the competition usually either tests the driver with challenging roads, and/or tests the navigator with precise calculations. A typical National Tour rally with a minimum of 24 controls is won with an average of less than one point per control, and often with less than 10 points total (or a total error for the day of under 6 seconds!).

A Course rally is also a time-speed-distance event, but requires logic to determine where the course goes, as well as the skills to remain at the assigned average speed. These contests emphasize mental agility as much as on the road skills. The ability to think quickly is necessary, often described as "Chess on wheels." If you are a "puzzle" person, then Course rallying is for you. Scores are generally higher as navigating the course correctly by solving the "traps" laid by the rallymaster plays a much bigger role in final scores than very accurate timekeeping.




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