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Hector, after you dyno, you have GOT to post a list of your mods... and maybe the costs too... Maybe it wont deter me that much to see the grand total 
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Originally posted by ZetaEx:
and maybe the costs too... Maybe it wont deter me that much to see the grand total
I have spent enough on mods during my ownership that I could have bought me a supercharger. 
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Supercharger -$2000 Mustang GT MAF- $80 Diablochip (custom)- $400 2.6 pulley- $100 Exhaust work- too much money Kamikaze header- $300 for header, $80 for cat, $120 for flex pipe CTA intake- $150 K&N filter-$50 MSD coil- $70 MSD wires- $40 Motorcraft copper plugs- $30 Not to mention I have a spare set of Ford Racing wires, NGK copper plugs.... Coming very soon Focus Central 65mm TB- $250 Snow Performance water injection- $250 Hoping for 170-180 WHP
Hector
2003 Rally Red Mitsubishi Evolution VIII
257HP/259TQ
2005 Lapis Blue Mazda 6s
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Going off of those numbers, I could have done all the mods you have done and still have a bit left over. Id still be crusing around in an ATX though. 
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170 - 180 whp?!?!.. Seriously? No disrespects but that's really depressing  , i mean you spent almost 4000 dollars in mods, 3920 to be exact, not to mention the cost of installing everything. I mean, thats 2720 more than what I got my car for!  ..Dang hector you must be a baller bro, spending all that loot on your car! I have a hard time thinking i spent 400 bucks on all the mods I have ( gotta Luv Ebay  )Man i really hope U end up with 270-280 whp...good luck on that Dyno
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Well Hector pays the cost of being the first and the fact that their aren't many zetec superchargers out their. Plus he has a reliable setup over 10k miles IIRC. Personally I would have gone turbo for the cost to performance ratio but thats because I have experience with custom turbo applications. I think he may have paid a lot for the bang to buck ratio but he enjoys it and so do we Good job Hector!
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I think with tuning and all, he could definitely see more than 170whp. But does he want to? He's got a tranny to worry about.
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That is very true, too much more power and you get into a whole new set of problems.  The truth is that these cars weren't designed with performance in mind... You really do pay a price for loving these cars... its almost like a bad girlfriend! She is so bad for you... but damn you love the b!tch... 
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hector where did you get the supercharger for $2000, the cheapest i can find it is $2450 (shipped) at import car parts plus?
i'll be ordering mine very soon! much cheaper than a turbo conversion, and it will put out better mpg than being turboed.
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Lets break down Hectors price/power ratio a bit, shall we;
First lets settle on 175wHP.
Now assuming a 23% loss through the drivetrain, thats about 227BHP.
On a car starting with 130BHP, thats a gain of nearly 100HP, a 75% bump in power.
And superchargers are not like turbos, they are not going to double an engines HP output (normally).
So for about $4000 for 100HP = $40 per 1HP.
A good Honda kit adds 60-70HP, maybe as much as 80HP, for about $2500 new.
Thats about $35-$42 per 1HP, $31 per HP at 80HP gain.
So Hector paid all of $9 per HP more for a car that has near zero aftermarket support.
Tuning will raise that cost maybe $2 per HP more, makint it $42 per HP and only $11 more per HP than a less efficient Honda kit.
We would all like to see a Honda type kit (install in 2-3 hours for a 60HP gain ) but its not going to happen.
BTW, I think 160-170wHP is about where Hector will top out even with tuning, on his current setup which is very impressive!
Of course when he has other work doen that number will go up.
And its not all about peak numbers, I'm confident the area under Hector's HP/TQ lines will be more than a Honda could dream of.
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