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Originally posted by DrGonzo: Oh yeah, one more question for eveyone to argue about...Tom Brady is already a two-time Super Bowl MVP. They win this year, how will you rank him with the best QBs of all time?
Not even top ten. He has benefited more from a good system more than anyone. He has Aikmanitis.
You are seriously delusional if you think Brady belongs with these guys:
Favre Elway Marino Young Montana Manning Starr Tarkenton Namath Staubach Unitas
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Originally posted by mikey boy: there are thousands of cegers on this site and each one of them probably has a different opinion.
The Bills of 91 were SO the best team in history. gimme a break, I love my hometown team, but just because a team can go to the Superbowl many times, it doesn't mean they will win (perfect example, huh? Though I feel it's about time WE went, damnit ) It also certainly doesn't mean they are the team from God (like so many NE fans do, Drew Bledsoe commented on how NE fans aren't even human and treat the players like Gods..)
I want the Eagles to win. On a side note is it possible the whole game is fixed so that the American Eagles clash against the Flag-wearing Patriots?
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Looks like Davo is firmly on the Patriots-hating bandwagon!
Davo, how many does he have to win for you to think that maybe Brady has something to do with the Patriots success?
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Originally posted by Pre98: On a side note is it possible the whole game is fixed so that the American Eagles clash against the Flag-wearing Patriots?
Exactly what I was thinking. Glad someone else brought this up. Remember 9/11....who won the SB that year? The Patriots. Alot thought it was rigged that year too.
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I'm not hating on anyone here. When people start spewing garbage (like many of the Patriots fan in here), that garbage needs to be corrected.
As far as how many 'he' needs to win, that's a false premise. Quarterbacks don't win championships, teams do. You can only measure how critical to a team's success the quarterback is. Look at Baltimore -- who did they have as QB? Trent Dilfer. Did 'he' win the Super Bowl? No. They could have won with me under center. So your error here is in placing most of the cause for winning upon the QB.
It's quite contradictory to claim how great every player on the team is and then state that the quarterback is the one winning the championships.
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Originally posted by Davo: It's quite contradictory to claim how great every player on the team is and then state that the quarterback is the one winning the championships.
Couldn't agree to this statement more.
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Davo, what will it take for you to admit that he belongs in that class of QB?
You're right, the QB alone cannot make the team great *cough* Colts *cough*. The Pats have a great team, yes, but they also have potentially one of the better QB's in the league.
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Originally posted by Davo: When people start spewing garbage (like many of the Patriots fan in here), that garbage needs to be corrected.
Davo.
I'd still like to hear your list of the Top 5 teams of all time (not necessarily in order).
Given everything that the NFL now has to prevent Dynasties, they continue to break unprecidented records This team has won 31 of their last 33 games!!!
I stand by the fact that what this team has done is ABSOLUTELY AMAZING, and to do it in this Day and Age they arguably belong in that list.
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and the fact that you're from the area doesn't taint your opinion at all.
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Originally posted by RT and his SE: and the fact that you're from the area doesn't taint your opinion at all.
Rather than rolling your eyes, how about throwing up your top 5 teams?

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