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Re: 3L hybrid and high lift cams?? #1162044 01/21/05 10:10 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 240 Columbia, South Carolina T Twisted6 CEG\'er
Twisted6 CEG\'er T Joined: May 2004 Posts: 240 Columbia, South Carolina	Originally posted by DemonSVT: Who makes adjustable timing gears though? Ford/Mazda. Driving the Caliber Side project: The LT-5 Fiero is being born..

Re: 3L hybrid and high lift cams?? #1162045 01/21/05 10:52 PM
Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 9,602 KC, MO D DemonSVT_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er
DemonSVT_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er D Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 9,602 KC, MO	Originally posted by Twisted6: Originally posted by DemonSVT: Who makes adjustable timing gears though? Ford/Mazda. No they don't. Nobody makes them. That's the entire point. 2000 SVT #674 13.47 @ 102 - All Motor! It was not broke; Yet I fixed it anyway.

Re: 3L hybrid and high lift cams?? #1162046 01/21/05 10:54 PM
Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 9,602 KC, MO D DemonSVT_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er
DemonSVT_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er D Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 9,602 KC, MO	Originally posted by yoslvr442: the lifts should be safe as long as the valves clear. they are pretty wild. the duration should be fine because they are set up for NA not F/I The WHOLE POINT is that there is a definite chance of valve interference. You did read what I first posted right? There is a wealth of information about this by simply searching "CAT CAMS" 2000 SVT #674 13.47 @ 102 - All Motor! It was not broke; Yet I fixed it anyway.

Re: 3L hybrid and high lift cams?? #1162047 01/21/05 11:03 PM
Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 9,602 KC, MO D DemonSVT_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er
DemonSVT_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er D Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 9,602 KC, MO	Originally posted by RTStabler51: Has anyone confirmed if they do or do not come with the timing gears on them? They do not come with the cam gears. You have to take the cam gears off your old cams and swap them over. As for what "gains" you should look for. SVT cams fall in between Stage 1 and Stage 2 but due to the excellent SVT exhaust cam profile have a longer sustained torque powerband. Stage 2 would produce greater peak numbers with weaker power under the curve. Therefore a good combo would the Stage 3 intake and the Stage 2 exhaust. IMNSHO this would be the best overall powerband. Stage 3 both would raise the overall powerband a bit high and make it fairly narrow. However the HP gains would be significant in the high rpm range because HP is just a derivative of TQ & RPM. For instance a Stage 3 intake with boost (especially a S/C due to it's rpm dependant nature) = 500 wheels easily! If I had to fathom a guess... 2000 SVT #674 13.47 @ 102 - All Motor! It was not broke; Yet I fixed it anyway.

Re: 3L hybrid and high lift cams?? #1162048 01/21/05 11:07 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 21 pa Y yoslvr442 OP New CEG\'er
OP yoslvr442 New CEG\'er Y Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 21 pa	yes demon i read your post!! and you said that the clearence is like .08" or something like that. i understand that completely. ok, so if they do hit, then the question is by how much?? and what to do about that right?? has anyone ever put stage 5 in a car yet?? from what i have found no. so ill be the one to experiment. i have confidence that they will be able to be put in w/o an overly large amount of work. the extra lift is 1mm, yes its alot, but the clearenc will make up some of that, so that means that i wont have to deal with the whole 1 mm. and that number is very very small. i have dealt with aftermarket cams and heads before on my other car. i know about clearenc issues. i was just saying that you could shave the pistons easily enough. i do appreciate all that you are saying Demon. im just thinking out loud or something. Friends!!

Re: 3L hybrid and high lift cams?? #1162049 01/21/05 11:12 PM
Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 9,602 KC, MO D DemonSVT_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er
DemonSVT_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er D Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 9,602 KC, MO	Nobody has even imported a single set yet. Also it doesn't matter if they hit by 3" or .000001" because hitting is hitting. You need to realize the parts expand when heated and timing can by off a few micro seconds which also means that free movement play NEEDS a safe clearance limit to work with. Stage 5 cams! Are you kidding! The powerband for those makes them the equivalent of circle track cams. Ultra high rpm, ultra short powerband, always on a boil or no power. I actually thought you were serious which is why I rehashed all this info for you... 2000 SVT #674 13.47 @ 102 - All Motor! It was not broke; Yet I fixed it anyway.

Re: 3L hybrid and high lift cams?? #1162050 01/21/05 11:15 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 240 Columbia, South Carolina T Twisted6 CEG\'er
Twisted6 CEG\'er T Joined: May 2004 Posts: 240 Columbia, South Carolina	Originally posted by DemonSVT: Originally posted by Twisted6: Originally posted by DemonSVT: Who makes adjustable timing gears though? Ford/Mazda. No they don't. Nobody makes them. That's the entire point. Then this must be a figment of my imagination: Broken down, it is an adjustable cam sprocket controlled by a oil control valve which is controlled by the ECU. From Ford/Mazda it offers a wide change of duration. Driving the Caliber Side project: The LT-5 Fiero is being born..

Re: 3L hybrid and high lift cams?? #1162051 01/21/05 11:19 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 21 pa Y yoslvr442 OP New CEG\'er
OP yoslvr442 New CEG\'er Y Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 21 pa	i was told that they would have a power band of 4000 to 8000 RPM. i am serious about getting these cams. i think they would be interesting to try out. if not from cat cams then ill have some similar ones made by like comp cams.

Re: 3L hybrid and high lift cams?? #1162052 01/21/05 11:26 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 240 Columbia, South Carolina T Twisted6 CEG\'er
Twisted6 CEG\'er T Joined: May 2004 Posts: 240 Columbia, South Carolina	Originally posted by yoslvr442: i was told that they would have a power band of 4000 to 8000 RPM. i am serious about getting these cams. i think they would be interesting to try out. if not from cat cams then ill have some similar ones made by like comp cams. Why not get ahold of Nikolas from Draxas/DuratecPerformance? He was working with Comp Cams to get some cam sets made for the Duratec V6s. Driving the Caliber Side project: The LT-5 Fiero is being born..

Re: 3L hybrid and high lift cams?? #1162053 01/21/05 11:59 PM
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OP yoslvr442 New CEG\'er Y Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 21 pa	great i think i might do that. thanks for the advice!!

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