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Pirelli Pzero Nero's are cheaper than the Michelin (Michelin's rubber is prone to premature cracking in warm climates) and are easily of equal build quality and performance. Dunlop are just about as good in performance and are cheaper yet. Don't get Khumo's, I have it from a 7 year veteran at Discount Tire that a very high percentage get returned with defects.


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thanks for all the discussion - any comments on size? 205 vs 215? Like I said, they're 7" rims. The sidewall would be very close between a 205/55 and a 215/50, so I guess they would ride the same. Is that much more rubber overkill on a stocker? I plan on a little suspension tweaking, but nothing major, just trying to get it back to 'like new' condition.


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Originally posted by 95Sleeper:
The sidewall would be very close between a 205/55 and a 215/50



No. The 215/50 has noticeably less sidewall. (and is shorter)

The 205/55 compares in sidewall & height to a 225/50 but is over 1" narrower.

If your choice is between 215/50 or 205/55 then choose 215/50 for handling & 205/55 for comfort.

For more tire selection and better performance try 225/50 but you may have rubbing issues on the earlier models.


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Yokohama parada spec2's I run them year round though
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Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Originally posted by 95Sleeper:
The sidewall would be very close between a 205/55 and a 215/50



No. The 215/50 has noticeably less sidewall. (and is shorter)

The 205/55 compares in sidewall & height to a 225/50 but is over 1" narrower.

If your choice is between 215/50 or 205/55 then choose 215/50 for handling & 205/55 for comfort.

For more tire selection and better performance try 225/50 but you may have rubbing issues on the earlier models.




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i was flipping through the miata tire calulator at work and I was looking at the 225. I think I'll look at the tires reccommended in both 215/50 and 205/55 and see what is affordable - thanks for the advice everyone, i'm getting ancy for spring now! well, not really- last night i was in the empty parking lot at the (huge) king of prussia mall sliding my parents subaru in the snow. Next time i need to get my dads 4motion passat


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I do NOT recommend Yokohama AVS ES100.

They suck in the dry.
They suck in the wet.

They don't really squeal, they just let go.

I get wheel hop in the dry.
I get wheelspin in the wet.

I regret buying them because I'm stuck with them for the next 4 years.

Do not buy these tires. I'm afraid to drive fast in the rain.

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I work for firestone as well an i think they are not that bad as far as price. (lol) yeah but the fuzion zri is a pretty good tire. My tire of chioce firestone sz50ep. To bad there is no more.


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I have those fuzion zri's on and they are okay.

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Originally posted by kerrychin:
I do NOT recommend Yokohama AVS ES100.

They suck in the dry.
They suck in the wet.

They don't really squeal, they just let go.

I get wheel hop in the dry.
I get wheelspin in the wet.

I regret buying them because I'm stuck with them for the next 4 years.

Do not buy these tires. I'm afraid to drive fast in the rain.

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whats this guy smoking ? it must be that breathing dragon. you need too puff puff pass that s**t !

the yoko avs es100 are a great dry tire. i just had a set on my stock e1 wheels and they stick like glue . really man what the heck are you talking about .

i'll agree that there not the best wet tire. but hey for $94 dollar a tire retail what do you expect .

as far as dry handling goes i give them two big thumbs up way up !!! these things stick and i really rag on my car in the corners and i have had no trouble . if you know how to drive. dont forget about centrifical force. as long as your not a total bone head and can half way drive there a great tire . expecally if your ballin on a budget.

in dry there very hard to make squeel in the corners . they just stick. and even when you do push them to the limit that they squeel they DO NOT SLIP its all grip!!!
what where you doing when they lossed traction on you ????

i've had the car with stock suspension going around and hairpin on ramp to the freeway and they at like 90+ mph in the middle or the corner accelerating out of the apex. they only squeeled when pushed to the limit and they stuck like glue.
this was the only time i was woried about losing it and the tires stuck point blank and period .

i really hope you know what the apex of a corner is!

in the wet they do slide a bit but there not a wet tire. who actually pushes there car in the rain. i sure as heck dont.

do you even wear your seat belt ? i sure hope you do or else your just a projectile.

yes. you get all kind of wheel hop when launched at high rpm's thats my main complaint but hey its a very stick tire again what do you expect.

i feel sorry for anyone who has kumo supra 712 on their car they look kinda cool but are just glazed dounut tires. the suck a lot. i hate it for you.

the yoko avs es100's i had where 225-45-16 on the stock 6.5" e1 rims there about as wide as you can go and have absolutly no rub ever ! i've put 15K mile on the set i had and there worn out now but it sure was fun while the rid lasted . i would recommend these tire to anyone looking for a budget high performance dry tire !

i would continue to rant but my job here is done !


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