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Originally posted by somthin220:
ive been working on my stomach now for about a year now...but i need to change up my routine.
it consisted of:
50 regular
80 straight leg
100 bicycle
40 side (each side)
(adding more reps if i felt like it)
does anybody have a really good specific crunch or even a routine that i could use. mainly worried about the lower.
and by the way...my routine that im changing...very very good and effective
Some more thoughts from me, i'll be m ore brief this time. Utilize stability balls to increase the intensity and recruit more muscle fibers. when it gets easy on the ball, close your eyes while on the ball or only use one foot to balance yourself. The more you challenge your propiroception the more muscle fibers you will need to recruit
Not sure what you mean by straight leg. I think you may mean some sort of leg raise. Just remember that if done incorrectly leg raises will use a lot of hip flexors and very little abdominals, similar to what situps do
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All you a- holes posting that my info is bs- go and study up next time. Except the guy who is a personal trainer. You all missed my point. The guy wants to firm up his midsection and the best exercise for this is sit-ups. Sit ups will not GET RID OF THE FAT ABOVE THE MUSCLE. before you allo blast me for not knowing anything.
I was a professional cyclist for 10 years. Ranked as high as 4th according to NORBA for observed trials. This is pro class.
Won more races than most people have entered, mind you I say most people.
Pennsylvania State dual slalom champion 2001. I could keep going.
One of my best friends owns a bike shop. We regularly sponsor VO2 max sessions,
I am friends with 3 different owners of helth clubs, not employees, but the owners. @ Golds Gym's and Fitness concepts. Look em up if you doubt.
One of my team mates at the bike shop is a professional chiropractor and has placed in the top 5 at the Hawaiian Iron man.
My family owned a dance studio, before you tease I did not work there, for over 20 years.
My sister has a degree in dance and was a professional dancer, not stripper so no comments.
My mother was a professional dance instructor. She is currently one of the premier teachers for The Alexander Technique of movement therapy. She also has a minor degree in nutrition
My father played football on a full scholarship to William and Mary and was invited to try out for the Dallas Cowboys and the Detroit Lions. He decided to start a family instead as pro football was not a lustrious back in the 50's and 60' dollar wise.
My brother went to UNC on a full soccer scholarship back in the late 80's.
I think I am qualified to speak on the matter. The guy wants to get tone and cut. Just doing sit-ups and strength training will not get him tone and cut. It has to be a balance. Strength training builds muscle. Now we can talk about building short fibers and bulk with heavy weights and few reps or long lean fibers with light weights and many reps. Building muscle without working in fat zones will just make you look bigger and bulky. YOU HAVE TO WORKOUT IN THE RIGHT HEART RATE ZONE TO BURN FAT. I'm not saying this zone exclusively, but it has to be incorporated into your weekly routine.
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Originally posted by Bike2112:
All you a- holes posting that my info is bs- go and study up next time. Except the guy who is a personal trainer. You all missed my point. The guy wants to firm up his midsection and the best exercise for this is sit-ups. Sit ups will not GET RID OF THE FAT ABOVE THE MUSCLE. before you allo blast me for not knowing anything.
I was a professional cyclist for 10 years. Ranked as high as 4th according to NORBA for observed trials. This is pro class.
Won more races than most people have entered, mind you I say most people.
Pennsylvania State dual slalom champion 2001. I could keep going.
One of my best friends owns a bike shop. We regularly sponsor VO2 max sessions,
I am friends with 3 different owners of helth clubs, not employees, but the owners. @ Golds Gym's and Fitness concepts. Look em up if you doubt.
One of my team mates at the bike shop is a professional chiropractor and has placed in the top 5 at the Hawaiian Iron man.
My family owned a dance studio, before you tease I did not work there, for over 20 years.
My sister has a degree in dance and was a professional dancer, not stripper so no comments.
My mother was a professional dance instructor. She is currently one of the premier teachers for The Alexander Technique of movement therapy. She also has a minor degree in nutrition
My father played football on a full scholarship to William and Mary and was invited to try out for the Dallas Cowboys and the Detroit Lions. He decided to start a family instead as pro football was not a lustrious back in the 50's and 60' dollar wise.
My brother went to UNC on a full soccer scholarship back in the late 80's.
I think I am qualified to speak on the matter. The guy wants to get tone and cut. Just doing sit-ups and strength training will not get him tone and cut. It has to be a balance. Strength training builds muscle. Now we can talk about building short fibers and bulk with heavy weights and few reps or long lean fibers with light weights and many reps. Building muscle without working in fat zones will just make you look bigger and bulky. YOU HAVE TO WORKOUT IN THE RIGHT HEART RATE ZONE TO BURN FAT. I'm not saying this zone exclusively, but it has to be incorporated into your weekly routine.
Excellent post bro.
Now I hate America? That is a new one to me.
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he doesn't need to know about vo2 max, zones, or any other modern hoopla. and he certainly should not pay anyone to perform some test on him when all he wants to do is get in better shape. here is what he needs to know:
-eat right. that means use common sense, so no midnight snacks, overeating or eating and going straight to bed. and for the love of god ignore those fad diets.
-there are alot of ways to do a sit up/crunch/leg lift. pick some and do bunch of those. change it up sometimes.
-a man must breathe. that means aerobics. so run or ride a bike or swim or run up and down alot of stairs or something. maybe even do all of them.
-stretch. you don't need to be a pretzel but you should be flexible.
since you want to talk about qualifications......i have been both in shape and out of shape. i have had a flat stomach, i have had defined abs(not a full six pack) and i have had a gut. furthermore, my family contains two types of physiques: very inshape and fat. i know what it takes to be both. it is not rocket science or quantum theory. it is basic common sense.
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he doesn't need to know about vo2 max, zones, or any other modern hoopla. and he certainly should not pay anyone to perform some test on him when all he wants to do is get in better shape. here is what he needs to know:
1st off it was a suggestion. Let me put it another way. You have modded your car (working out) and you want to know how much horsepower you are putting down at the dyno. (VO2 test). Same thing except your body is more important than a car. It is kind of like the guy who has a cel after changing everything he can think of without running the codes. Treat your body like your car. To mod your car, you research different performance adders, get suggestions and perform your mods.
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since you want to talk about qualifications......i have been both in shape and out of shape. i have had a flat stomach, i have had defined abs(not a full six pack) and i have had a gut. furthermore, my family contains two types of physiques: very inshape and fat. i know what it takes to be both. it is not rocket science or quantum theory. it is basic common sense
How does being fat and then thin make you qualified. If anything it may indicate an eating disorder or mental imbalance.
I don't care if you don't like what I say, but I have not said he SHOULD get a VO2 test, it was a suggestion. So go get something to eat dummy.
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Originally posted by todras:
Why have a 6 pack when you can have a party ball? 
bwahahahahaha 
Originally posted by Chickens:
Religion can't do much for ashholes (unless you are an alterboy)
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Ab workout?
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Originally posted by Bike2112:
One of my best friends owns a bike shop. We regularly sponsor VO2 max sessions,
I find that shocking, in light of your telling the starter of this thread that VO2 is the way to get where he wants to go. 
Exercise science is quite the phenomenon. Amazingly, I've acheived tremendous fitness goals without spending hundreds of dollars on assessments and programs. There is no substitute for hard work. And quite honestly, much of exercise/nutrition science is Circus Science. You will have one person telling you this is the way to do it (Atkins) and have another tell you that way to do it will kill you. The same goes for exercise science.
I guess if you want to be a professional athlete, you can go and spend hundreds of dollars on assessments, supplements, programs, and equipment. I didn't get that indication from the starter of this thread however, since he was simply looking for an ab routine, not how to correctly balance the pH and oxygen levels of his blood.
EDIT: I misspoke. I was in a speed/endurance/plyo program in high school that cost several hundred dollars, but it was completely natural and did not alter my body chemistry in any way.
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Originally posted by Bike2112:
All you a- holes posting that my info is bs- go and study up next time. Except the guy who is a personal trainer. You all missed my point. The guy wants to firm up his midsection and the best exercise for this is sit-ups. Sit ups will not GET RID OF THE FAT ABOVE THE MUSCLE. before you allo blast me for not knowing anything.
I was a professional cyclist for 10 years. Ranked as high as 4th according to NORBA for observed trials. This is pro class.
Won more races than most people have entered, mind you I say most people.
Pennsylvania State dual slalom champion 2001. I could keep going.
One of my best friends owns a bike shop. We regularly sponsor VO2 max sessions,
I am friends with 3 different owners of helth clubs, not employees, but the owners. @ Golds Gym's and Fitness concepts. Look em up if you doubt.
One of my team mates at the bike shop is a professional chiropractor and has placed in the top 5 at the Hawaiian Iron man.
My family owned a dance studio, before you tease I did not work there, for over 20 years.
My sister has a degree in dance and was a professional dancer, not stripper so no comments.
My mother was a professional dance instructor. She is currently one of the premier teachers for The Alexander Technique of movement therapy. She also has a minor degree in nutrition
My father played football on a full scholarship to William and Mary and was invited to try out for the Dallas Cowboys and the Detroit Lions. He decided to start a family instead as pro football was not a lustrious back in the 50's and 60' dollar wise.
My brother went to UNC on a full soccer scholarship back in the late 80's.
I think I am qualified to speak on the matter. The guy wants to get tone and cut. Just doing sit-ups and strength training will not get him tone and cut. It has to be a balance. Strength training builds muscle. Now we can talk about building short fibers and bulk with heavy weights and few reps or long lean fibers with light weights and many reps. Building muscle without working in fat zones will just make you look bigger and bulky. YOU HAVE TO WORKOUT IN THE RIGHT HEART RATE ZONE TO BURN FAT. I'm not saying this zone exclusively, but it has to be incorporated into your weekly routine.
Listen, I am glad that you are Lance Armstrong, and that you come from a family of mutant genetics that allows them to excel to the point of immortality. I was merely stating that you dismissed someone elses contributions to this thread unnecessarily, and quite rudely might I add.
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