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#114503 02/23/02 11:59 PM
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isn't a hollow bar more likely to bend than a solid bar?


...and yes, I did SEARCH first before asking.

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#114504 02/24/02 07:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by hmouta:
isn't a hollow bar more likely to bend than a solid bar?


Maybe made out off normal bar stock like other bars. Not Chrome Moly! (I'm sure Aussie will post the specs - it puts anything else to shame!)

It's half the weight (unsprung), gives more rigidity than any other bar, is more durable, better quality material, and is powder coated (don't know if others are or just painted?)

If you don't want to spend the extra couple bucks... Don't... It's not my money...

You get what you pay for though... IMO for a couple bucks it's downright silly to pass up an opportunity like this. Who knows if there will be any more made even with what it took to get these last ones???


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#114505 02/24/02 09:08 PM
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thanks for the answer demon.


...and yes, I did SEARCH first before asking.

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#114506 02/25/02 01:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by DemonSVT:


(it) ...is powder coated (don't know if others are or just painted?)


BAT bar is painted.


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#114507 02/25/02 05:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Sam Sampson:


BAT bar is painted.


Yet another strike against the BAT bar... :p


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Mine should be on the way shortly!

Can't wait,

Sorry had to post, I'm excited! laugh


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#114509 02/25/02 01:25 PM
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All calculations, steel specs etc. are in this topic.
http://www.contour.org/cgi-ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=6&t=002558
I am not going to say anything else about the bart, as other CEGer's that have it have already said the kudo's it deserves.
As for clunk. That can be eliminated by ordering and install a set of HD backing plates so you can use the HD Sway Bar bar Bushings and brackets.
You can find the info on those here:
http://www.contour.org/cgi-ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=46&t=000256


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"isn't a hollow bar more likely to bend than a solid bar?"


Yes, in pure bending. BUT the anti-sway bar works on the principle of a torsion spring. In torsion applications, all (for simplification) of the stress is concentrated on the outer edge of a piece of metal. So, a solid bar not only gives you a hella more weight, the weight is doing nothing toward torsional rigidity. In other words, the hollow bar will not bend.

As far as lower amount of unsprung weight. You may ask what good does that do me? Simply put the lower amount of inertia (a direct relation with mass) you have for the suspension (shocks, springs, etc) to compensate for on every bump, the quicker it reacts, thereby keeping your tires in contact with the road with the optimum amount of normal force, which is ALWAYS a good thing.

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Terry, you have a pm....


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#114512 02/25/02 05:12 PM
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I can't believe lower unsprung weight has come up as a reason to buy a lighter bar :rolleyes: !

Yes, lower unsprung weight across the board is a great idea. So is lower sprung weight, although less so than unsprung. No aurguments there.

But to call a sway bar unsprung weight is to misunderstand the idea of 'unsprung'. Unsprung means moving up and down with the wheels, ie below the spring and damper. With sway bars, very little of the sway bar mass is truly unsprung - only the end links really - and the rest rotates in mounts in the subframe. That means the vast majority the weight is sprung, since the weight of the bar is borne (along with the subframe) by the springs in the suspension.

That said, there are many great reasons to get the aussie bar. 1, it's light. 2, it's 4130 steel, so it's gonna be durable. 3, it's made by AAM, the maker of many OE bars.

In case you didn't know, I'm an automotive engineer that happens to hate half-azzed engineering mistruths. Like BAT's claim that their 21mm bar is strengthened to increase stiffness to that of a 22mm bar. That's a joke. Treatments can increase the strength of a bar, but we should all know by now that strength and stiffness are two different animals. Springs and sway bars are designed for stiffness. Any 21mm steel bar will have the same spring rate.



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