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Originally posted by baco99:
most recent reports are showing that another 10,000 to 15,000 people could die int he next few weeks to communicative disease as a result of the combination of flooding and decay. unbelievably sad.
Yes, and unfortunately, most will be children. I was so frustrated when I saw all those small children piled up in the mass graves and their parents trying to identify them. Just a horrible situation.
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Originally posted by baco99:
most recent reports are showing that another 10,000 to 15,000 people could die int he next few weeks to communicative disease as a result of the combination of flooding and decay. unbelievably sad.
Yeah, they are expecting this number to skyrocket as fresh water is now becoming an serious issue...
You know, we gave BILLIONS to help Florida during the hurricanes. About time we upped our aid to these countries.
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Couldn't agree more. ^^^
On a scientific note, could this disaster by any chance limit the unique variances of our human dna somewhat? It's just a thought, nothing too serious yet..I just know from science classes that at one point the human species was more diverse, and because of later natural disasters we've become less unique over time.
We've witnessed something that hopefully will never happen again in a very long time.
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CNN = 80,000+ dead now across 11 countries. 
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..these casualties are starting to become really large numbers in my head (not so much casualties anymore because I cannot imagine so many deaths at one time)...
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We've witnessed something that hopefully will never happen again in a very long time.
Oh it, and others like it, certainly will.
This really was a very tragic event, but I really don't see why this event in particular is made such a big deal out of. And that's not a complain about this event, but the lack of coverage (and often caring) about many others that go virtually un-noticed.
Bangladesh is hit by cyclones all the time that kill tens of thousands in one fell swoop. About every 20 years a storm will come through that kills hundreds of thousands.
Just last year in Iran 35,000 people were killed and over 200,000 left homeless in an earthquake. It was on the news, but not even close to like this. I would imagine largely just because it happened in Iran.
Flooding kills thousands and leaves millions homeless in China every year.
In the grand scheme of just the last century, this would be a "moderate" event, probably not even in the top 50 singular disaster events. In the span of the last millenia this wouldn't even register on the scale. We can't even begin fathom the earthquakes that killed millions of people 1000 years ago -- and this before people lived as densely as they do today.
I'm not at all trying to diminish this tragedy, just pointing out that this is not an uncommon or rare event. Not in the span of modern history and certainly not in the span of human history.
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Originally posted by Pre98:
Couldn't agree more. ^^^
On a scientific note, could this disaster by any chance limit the unique variances of our human dna somewhat? It's just a thought, nothing too serious yet..I just know from science classes that at one point the human species was more diverse, and because of later natural disasters we've become less unique over time.
We've witnessed something that hopefully will never happen again in a very long time.
I think it'll effect family lineages, but the gene pool shouldn't be change in a large schema. These areas are densely populated, hence we are seeing a very large death toll.
The historical inferences that you have read have some important components that these areas don't:
1.) A very small overall population that was effected
2.) A very less diverse gene poll, hence less abudance and less variation.
I doubt this will do anything major, especially since these areas have a very large younger population, i.e. in recent, these countries are breaking their Birth Rate vs. Death Rate; almost defeating their carrying capacity. (Whenever a carrying capacity is defeated we see effects like malnutrition which develop social effects like poverty and illiteracy.) Yet, to endanger a group's gene poll, it must be catastrophic, i.e. elimination of 90+% of these people. Also keep in mind that the areas effected have small land area:population size. That itself, shows that there cannot be too many variants of gene components, since gene flow must be ridiculous high.
In terms of humaniatarian aid from the US's perspective, I humbly believe it is not enough. These death toll numbers are awing, and a few million dollars are not enough. I hope everyone can make a personal contribution to try to assist those in need, since it appears our government is leaning towards political interests rather than humanitarian relief.
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Originally posted by zgendron:
You know, we gave BILLIONS to help Florida during the hurricanes. About time we upped our aid to these countries.
Apples and oranges.
We didn't GIVE to Florida. The people of Florida recieved services PAID FOR with their tax dollars. The government fulfilled it's responsibilty to provide and repair infrastructure. Then the insurance industry, using money provided by premiums and earned from said premiums, fulfilled contractual obligations to provide payouts (yeah, and they screwed people, too, but that's another discussion).
Now, the aid we are sending oversees is, indeed, GIVING.
Look at the big picture.
Our aid will be in combination with the world as a community. Already, $35 mil in cash, millions more in supplies being sent, US troops are being sent to help (Marine exp. unit, USS Abe Lincoln is being sent), etc.
Bush stated this morning that currently, the concern is immediate aid (food,water, and shelter), coordinating relief efforts, and determining the extent of damage and rebuilding.
The total given by the US Gov't will go WAY up.
And that's not counting private cash donations, from generous Americans, to relief efforts.
By the way, the French have promised a little over $100,000.
Having said all that, give if you can, and no matter what God you worship, keep this people in your prayers.
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Originally posted by hrsepwrdrms:
I wish this never happened!!!!
death toll at 80,000...and rising 
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