Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by Ignorant Thug:


All thats does not mean jack until he wins a Superbowl ring. There are countless players who were superstars on the field. Players that broke plenty of records but were never able to btain that next level of respect due to them not winning a ring. Shall we start with Barry Sanders or how about Dan Marino?

Manning is good but we shall see how things go in the playoffs. Honestly, I can't stand the Colts(or the Patriots), but I will give credit where it is due.



Ignorant thug, your ignorance is in your spelling, and your thinking. You think that because Dan Marino didn't win a Super Bowl, that he won't be recognized as one of the best quarterbacks to play the game? You can't deny that Barry Sanders was one of the best back, and would be considered #1 if he decided to stick around and take Walter Peyton's record. Too bad it would have taken him a few more years than Walter to achieve that yardage. But honestly, don't go talking smack about the Colts and how they won't win the Superbowl, until it's over. I personally like their chances. Sure, they're defense hasn't really been much to brag about. But ya know what? They still score touchdowns, and they still win games. If they can run up 35 points a game, they are well in contention with any team you put on the other side of the field. And you better know, that Peyton will come prepared come Game 1 of the Playoffs.

Mark



Actually, he's quite right. Sure they were all great players and even considered the best of the best. But the fact remains is that in sports the pinnacle of GREATNESS is measured by championships. Wayne Gretzky doesn't get called The Great One merely because he put up numbers. Michael Jordan, Bill Russell, Larry Bird = Champions vs. Charles Barkley, Karl Malone, Patrick Ewing = great players, HOFer's, no rings. When you think of the very BEST of the GREAT players, you think championships and MVPs bottomline.

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