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Originally posted by PackRat:
My nuts sure are sore from you riding them all the [censored] time.
that may be an STD. get it checked ASAP.
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Originally posted by PDXSVT:
I can conceed for the sake of argument that the actions alleged within those cases were taken by individual managers. But the decisions to NOT settle those cases and to resist them 100% of the way through trial, and to likely argue to the jury that Walmart did absolutely nothing wrong, those were NOT the decisions of a few isolated rogue managers. THOSE decisions WERE made by big fish in the company, the big fish who set the company's vision, the big fish who write the company's mission statements, the big fish who DO set company policy. Even you, Packrat, cannot think decisions over multi-million dollar, high profile public cases like those are just delegated to the second shift manager in paper goods at some store in Jackalope South Dakota. Your "it was the individual managers" defense demonstrates the lack of thought you've given this topic.
Now who's the pinhead?
Meanwhile Packrat, is there PERHAPS a miniscule, distant, remote possibility that the UAW, while it certainly has its corruption and flaws, did not go to bat for you, because of you? Are you SUCH a saint, that could NEVER possibly be any factor whatsoever? Gee whiz, you're so well spoken and reasonable, why would they be pleased to rid themselves of a model member like you?
And if you were so screwed over, please remember that YOU neither researched nor pursued your breach of fair representation rights against the UAW. I guess you would not learn about that while watching Maury.
Have a nice day.
That is some fine work right there, PDXSVT.
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Originally posted by caltour:
Originally posted by PDXSVT:
I can conceed for the sake of argument that the actions alleged within those cases were taken by individual managers. But the decisions to NOT settle those cases and to resist them 100% of the way through trial, and to likely argue to the jury that Walmart did absolutely nothing wrong, those were NOT the decisions of a few isolated rogue managers. THOSE decisions WERE made by big fish in the company, the big fish who set the company's vision, the big fish who write the company's mission statements, the big fish who DO set company policy. Even you, Packrat, cannot think decisions over multi-million dollar, high profile public cases like those are just delegated to the second shift manager in paper goods at some store in Jackalope South Dakota. Your "it was the individual managers" defense demonstrates the lack of thought you've given this topic.
Now who's the pinhead?
Meanwhile Packrat, is there PERHAPS a miniscule, distant, remote possibility that the UAW, while it certainly has its corruption and flaws, did not go to bat for you, because of you? Are you SUCH a saint, that could NEVER possibly be any factor whatsoever? Gee whiz, you're so well spoken and reasonable, why would they be pleased to rid themselves of a model member like you?
And if you were so screwed over, please remember that YOU neither researched nor pursued your breach of fair representation rights against the UAW. I guess you would not learn about that while watching Maury.
Have a nice day.
That is some fine work right there, PDXSVT.
No, it's not.
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Originally posted by PackRat:
You can take your propaganda and shove it. You WON'T win this one with me.
Chalk this one up to one of the times I'll agree wholeheartedly with PackRat.
This should be entertaining... 
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Originally posted by oandaxm:
Propaganda? These are KNOWN facts that they did these things. I think Wal-Mart has brainwashed you.
All companies make mistakes, right?
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Locking in employees in stores? Making employees work OFF the clock? Or NOT paying overtime unless the employee complains?
At my store anyway, we are written up, and eventually terminated for working off the clock. It is a BIG deal. Even if you just help someone find the toasters and you're off the clock, you're required to put in a form so you can be paid for the time. Overtime is similar. If you work overtime, you WILL get paid for it. End of story. As my store is open 24 hours, nobody gets locked in the building. However, I can tell you that our store will shut down X-Mas eve at 6:00 pm and will open the morning after X-Mas at 6:00 am, and NOBODY will remain in the store. Our security will go through the store and make sure everyone is out - employee or customer - THEN the doors will be locked.
Something else I'd like to point out - everyone ridicules Wal-Mart SO hard, but why is that really? If it weren't for Wal-Mart, approximately 1200 people in my town would not be employed. Wal-Mart's "Low Prices" that everyone hates so much, is why some people can afford to actually live sort of comfortably - because they don't have to spend a fortune on food/clothes/etc. While Wal-Mart may have it's flaws - as does every company - it's obviously doing something right as it's the largest private employer in the United States, don't ya think?
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Black Sativa,
Since you obviously work at a Topeka Wal-Mart, and if you think its so great (I avoid Wal-Mart totally), then why was their so much community opposition to adding another Wal-Mart to the North end of Topeka? Its because Wal-Mart symbolizes all that is wrong with this country....poor pay and benefits, imported Chinese junk.
Wal Mart has a history of coming into a town, demanding tax abatements, free utility extensions, etc. If the city management refuses, Wal Mart goes on a binge of deceit, informing citizens that the city they live in is trying to block its citizens from shopping at Wal Mart. Yes, I know this for a FACT, my father was on the city commission of a town that would not buckle to the demands of Wal Mart and allow them to trample the local merchants.
Wal Mart is going to destroy this country.
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I always wonder where the complaints of low-pay at Wal-Mart come from. Maybe there's places in the nation where they don't pay their employees well, but here in North Texas a Wal-Mart employee will make almost double what the same employee makes at a grocery store, and a good 25-50% more than the same employee would make at a department store and they'll certainly be offered far better benefits. I won't say that holds true everywhere, but it does here.
I can't say I've heard too much ruckus about McDonald's moving into towns, shutting down all the Mom-and-Pop greasy spoon cafes, and paying their employees minimum wage and providing no benefits whatsoever.
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Wal Mart has a history of coming into a town, demanding tax abatements, free utility extensions, etc.
So does every other freaking company in the world. This practice was around long before they came around and will be around long after they're gone. When Boeing wanted a new HQ and couldn't decide between Dallas and Chicago, what was the deciding factor? Tax breaks. You just hear about it more now because Wal-Mart is so big.
Counties don't have to offer them breaks if they don't want to. Not giving them is probably not a smart thing to do, but they don't have to. Denton Couty here in Texas did that -- Wal-Mart built a SuperCenter right across the county line. Only then did Denton allow them to build inside the County so they could get some tax money. Because of various cities and counties doing this I can now get to 3 Wal-Mart SuperCenters and 2 Super Targets within 5 minutes.
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If the city management refuses, Wal Mart goes on a binge of deceit, informing citizens that the city they live in is trying to block its citizens from shopping at Wal Mart.
Can't say I see how that is "deceit". If the city management is refusing Wal-Mart is well within their rights to campaign the community to raise support. It's not the job of the city management to do what it think is "right" but rather do the will of the people, else they won't be re-elected. If the people want a Wal-Mart 2 miles away rather than 20 miles away then that's what they demand.
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Wal Mart is going to destroy this country.
People in general are doing a good enough job of that without any help from Wal-Mart -- or any corporation for that matter.
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While I prefer Target over Wal-Mart based on service and merchandise, I don't consider the big boxes to be evil.
Sigma pretty much summed up my thinking with one exception.
If the other places cannot adapt to Wal-Mart in their market, they don't deserve to be in business. They don't necessarily have to compete on price, but they need to differentiate themselves in some way that is attractive to customers.
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Originally posted by Beachboy:
Wal Mart has a history of coming into a town, demanding tax abatements, free utility extensions, etc.
I hate to break it to you, but almost EVERY national chain does this.
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If the city management refuses, Wal Mart goes on a binge of deceit, informing citizens that the city they live in is trying to block its citizens from shopping at Wal Mart.
Funny, our city actually demanded that Wal-Mart buy up a large portion of an area ACROSS the street from the Supercenter they put up, build a new connecting street. Wal-Mart agreed to do so.
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Yes, I know this for a FACT, my father was on the city commission of a town that would not buckle to the demands of Wal Mart and allow them to trample the local merchants.
If you're comfortable paying higher prices at your "local merchants", that's your bag.
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No, the Democrats are going to destroy this country.
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