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Originally posted by bigMoneyRacing:
Why not just take a POS Zetec car and go from there?
  SVTs aren't anything special.  
Hector
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Originally posted by LoCoZs/c:
Originally posted by bigMoneyRacing:
Why not just take a POS Zetec car and go from there?
SVTs aren't anything special.
No slight intended Hector, it was a poor choice of adjectives. Let me try again:
Originally posted by bigMoneyRacing:
Why not just take a beater Zetec car and go from there?
It was an attempt to infer that building a race car out of any cherry street car is a huuuge waste--as is this brainless project.
Mike, read the bloody spec sheet on an SVT, take note of how many SVT spec parts you wouldn't be using, and ask yourself whether it'd really be an "SVT" after your hack job.
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Yeah, the SVTs are not anything special. N/A 2.5Ls putting out 160 FWHP pure stock must grow on trees.
If we assume an MTX Zetec does only around 105 FWHP, then an SVT is ONLY around 55 FWHP ahead of a normal Zetec. That a Zetec needs a turbocharger just to catch up with the SVT indicates the SVT IS something special, at least compared to a Zetec.
So what's so exotic, unique and desirable about a turbo'd Zetec that you sink $$THOUSANDS into it, just to MAYBE (if you're lucky) break even with a dull, mundane, garden variety Duratec SVT?
With the cast iron Zetec vs. Duratec providing miniscule weight differences, any weight advantage maybe held by the Zetec for handling or braking would probably be less than that between using 'good' and 'better' tires.
Why would anyone even want to daydream about intentionally spending $thousands to take a step backwards in performance?
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Holy crap I thought this thread had ended.
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Originally posted by supertouringmike:
Dare one of us Corrupt a sacred CSVT  
Cool idea, but it goes back to your original quote:
Originally posted by supertouringmike:
4.I like the Sleeper/Touring look idea...the unexpected!
How is a CSVT a sleeper? I do get that you want to blow peoples minds with a 4cyl CSVT, but they are already quick.
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Originally posted by PDXSVT:
Yeah, the SVTs are not anything special. N/A 2.5Ls putting out 160 FWHP pure stock must grow on trees.
If we assume an MTX Zetec does only around 105 FWHP, then an SVT is ONLY around 55 FWHP ahead of a normal Zetec. That a Zetec needs a turbocharger just to catch up with the SVT indicates the SVT IS something special, at least compared to a Zetec.
So what's so exotic, unique and desirable about a turbo'd Zetec that you sink $$THOUSANDS into it, just to MAYBE (if you're lucky) break even with a dull, mundane, garden variety Duratec SVT?
Turbo Zetec break even with a stock SVT? HA....most of the Turboed Focus running are at or over 200 FWHP.....there was never a stock Duratec SVT running that or even close.
Hector
2003 Rally Red Mitsubishi Evolution VIII
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2005 Lapis Blue Mazda 6s
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91 Escort GT (almost sold)
96 ATX Zetec (i brake to watch you swerve)
FS: SVT rear sway bar
WTB: Very cheap beater
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Originally posted by LoCoZs/c:
Turbo Zetec break even with a stock SVT? HA....most of the Turboed Focus running are at or over 200 FWHP.....there was never a stock Duratec SVT running that or even close.
I beg to differ.
What are the turbo Zetec CDW-27's running? Exactly... 
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Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Originally posted by LoCoZs/c:
Turbo Zetec break even with a stock SVT? HA....most of the Turboed Focus running are at or over 200 FWHP.....there was never a stock Duratec SVT running that or even close.
I beg to differ.
What are the turbo Zetec CDW-27's running? Exactly...
He didn't specify.  
Hector
2003 Rally Red Mitsubishi Evolution VIII
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2005 Lapis Blue Mazda 6s
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
This topic i s stoopid.
The only thing stupid is your response. Thank you once again for another useless post.
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