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I got some things done to my car and my mechanic noticed the rear motor mount is pretty much shot. He showed me how when he switched through the gears, the engine moved pretty bad. First question: What happens when its gone? Anything to postpone the life?

Second: Where can i get the motor mounts? Do i just need the rubber piece or the whole piece. I read on here that you should do all of them at the same time. I will have my father inlaw do it in the near future, i just gotta get the parts first. Can i get them from the stealership or are they way to pricey?

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I am assuming you are refering to the roll resistor(s) that can be seen from under the car. The are closer to the center of the car, a large round or oval piece with a large rubber snowflake inside of it?

When it is gone, your engine will experience too much movement. You may get a thump when the center aluminum piece reaches the limit. This would be under hard acceleration or engine braking though. As for prolonging its life, the only way you can make the ones you have work is talked about below.

Your local dealership or from fordpartsonline. According to fordpartsonline, you will be looking at about $100 per mount to replace them. Yes, they are pricey.

As for prolonging its life. When I took my old ones out, the front resistor was to bad that the rubber snowflake actually fell out! Granted, I had been manually shifting the ATX for over a month with some of those shifts being quite hard. I took all for of my new, 77K mile mounts and filled them with urethane. It does take some dry time so your car would be off the road for a few days, preferably a week so the mounts could cure inside the warm house. If you picked up some used ones from the j/y it would allow you to keep your car going until you are ready. Anyway, I completely removed the rubber snowflakes after I had made some measurements. I drilled four holes in the aluminum tube that is in the snowflake and four in the outside of the mount, all opposite of each other. Run tiewire through those little holes to keep the aluminum tube centered in the mount. Plug the holes with a small dab of silicone. Seal one side (make sure its sealed too!) with some saran wrap and duct tape. Mix your urethane, pour, and wait. It took them about 40 minutes for the urethane I used to cure so I could take them inside.

I did use the hardest urethane that I could get my hands on that would hold up to the elements of an engine compartment. I would stay away from this grade, unless you are ok with extra vibrations being transfered inside the car. There are softer grades that would drown some of these down. Filling all four mounts is probably not required, but I did it anyway. I spent ~$50 to do the mounts, using the urethane I purchased from McMaster - Carr. I used shore 94A urethane, so 80 or 60 would be a better choice if you dont want the vibrations. You will experience some with new mounts from Ford since their rubber will be in better shape then yours. Anyway, you want page 3298 in their catalog, just type that in the find.

FWIW, I have a set of ATX mounts if you want to do the urethane and dont want to go to the j/y. Shipping and their yours since they wont fit my car anymore. PM me.

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Just had my rear roll restrictor put in at Meineke. About $150 for part & labor. On a lift it's a 5 minute job.

Read my previous post (pictures included)


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Originally posted by Nate'sTour:
On a lift it's a 5 minute job.






in your back yard its a 5 minute job!!!

you got robbed


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Originally posted by pole120:
Originally posted by Nate'sTour:
On a lift it's a 5 minute job.






in your back yard its a 5 minute job!!!

you got robbed




Not really, I paid someone $35 to put it on. A good deal when I didn't have to do all that work. The part is $106 regardless of if I DIY or not. to you!


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ah....zetec...

indeed for me

ford parts online- mount to crossmember-zetec-mtx
65.47

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Called AutoZone . They said they have the right mount 89.99, Left mount 69.99, Front 18.99 just the insert? Same for the rea, just an insert. So that would basically mean just replacing the inside of the rear and front mounts? Im confused i thought it would be sold as a whole?

Should i get these?

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Matt, you need the roll restrictors. You might see what they look like in person.They might be quoting you motor mount prices?..? Your motor mounts are on the left and right side of the engine, you can see them from opening the hood.

The roll restrictors are on the underside on the front and rear of the engine. See my pic of the underside there?

If that's the part and the price they're quoting you then I'd get the entire piece. I've never heard of an insert for a roll restrictor.

See what they want for the entire roll restrictor...

Good luck!


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Autozone has inserts for the roll resistors (bottom of radiator and center rear engine) for about $40 apiece. They also had the entire transmission mount (driver side under batt. box) for about $80. Did mine about 7 months ago. Didn't do the motor mount (top passenger side), don't remember if they had that one. Took me about 2 hours for all three. Be sure and support the engine with a jack and piece of wood under the oil pan. I had to raise the motor a couple of inches to get room for one of the roll resistors to come out also.


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Every Auto place i called, they had no idea what a Roll Resistor is. They said my car doesnt have them. They said they are called motor mounts. I have Haynes manuel, They even say the rear is called a "Engine/transaxle rear mount" The front is called "Engine/transaxle front mount"

Im so confused. Is there a place online to purchase the roll resistors as a whole and not a insert. I want the right piece. Would the inserts work just the same? i would bring my Haynes manuel with me to the store to match the piece but if they only have an insert, im not sure.

Someone please point me in the right direction. Any places online sell them, by the way i have autotrans.

Thanks again,
Matt

EDIT: Its also says in the Haynes Manuel, "Vehicle equipped with an auto trans, an additional damper may be fastened to the underside of the engine/tranaxle rear mount." Now im even more confused....

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