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#1125065 12/09/04 02:51 PM
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Originally posted by Todd TCE:
Wheel brand and offset are only part of the picture. Spoke design is where the issues are.

1.10 rotor with FSL caliper require 35mm clearance
1.10 rotor with BSL6 caliper require 39mm clearance
1.10 rotor with BSL6n caliper require 29mm clearance

.81 rotor with FSL; 27mm
.81 rotor with BSL6; 33mm
.81 rotor with BSL6n; 23mm (aprox)


Pull wheel, flip over, place flat edge on hub section, measure down from flat edge to back side of spoke. X-Y coordiantes of sorts. This is where the caliper body sits. Do this from a begining radius of 4' to an outside radius of 6" from center bore. (i.e. about half the rotor diameter)






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#1125066 12/14/04 07:31 PM
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just thought i would jump in here. i worked with todd a couple of months ago to get my setup worked out. i went with the full bodied BSL6 and a 13x1.10 rotor up front. just to give you an idea of the clearance issue you will be dealing with i give you this pic

my wheels are very brake friendly. i also went with the upsize rotor in the rear. you can look at some other pics here
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#1125067 12/14/04 07:45 PM
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i just went back and looked at some of my info just for clarity. i measured 1.715 in of clearance at the tightest part of my spokes. where the quarter sits in the previous picture, i had about 1.8 and change. the bsl6 w/1.1 requires 39mm(approx 1.5 in) per todds post

hate to hi jack here but i have been meaning to e-mail you todd and i keep forgetting. i found myself wondering what the service limit specs were for the 13x1.1 in rotor. what about for the rear? (i can't remember the specs right off the top of my head but it is just your standard rear upgrade for the contour)i wanted to know just in case i ever needed to have the rotors turned. thanks, zach

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#1125068 12/15/04 02:14 AM
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Wow!
That pic is going in the save file. Hope you don't mind if I use it from time to time. This sums it up oh so well.

Wear limits: I factor a 10% reduction as safe. Doubt you'll do much on the rears though.


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#1125069 12/15/04 03:32 AM
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Hey Todd, I tried looking at your site today but it was down. Otherwise I would have emailed you.

Anyways I measured my rim clearance and at 4" from the center of the hub I have ~30mm of clearance and at 6" I have ~35mm of clearance.

I looked into it and I saw that with the BSL6n you use thinner pads. How does this affect lifespan of the pads? I'm assuming it will be slightly less then.

I guess I may be looking a using a spacer in the end (~5-10mm). What can I expect in terms of additional stresses on wheel bearings etc with a such a spacer?

Also what's the upgrade price for the 1.1" thick rotor?


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Forgot to post my email.

You can email me at egroenke_at_gmail.com


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Sorry about site. Got my guys working on it.....not MY fault! Grrrr.

The clearance numbers are what you need to review. If this meets your desired combo then you're in business.

Building the kit with 1.10 vs .81 rotors changes the base price from $1079 to $1095. Pricing is however going to change on the entire bbk line in a short time. The shipping cost are getting to me as well as some other things.

Depending upon your vehicle use the value of the 1.0 rotor is up to you. For daily street driving and occasional light track day use the narrow rotors are just fine. Wider rotors do NOT improve braking only add to the thermal capacity at higher levels. And don't foret that you've already added more total mass by way of the diameter alone. Weight differences may also be worth considering; 11lbs per rotor for the .81 and 14lbs+ for the 1.10 rotors. Still, this is up to you.

The narrow six uses a .62 pad vs the fatter .80 pad for the full size six. Live span will obviously be effected. So too the more limited choice of compounds for the narrow and greater heat to the caliper body for track use has to be mentioned.

As I've stated before; it's all about a compromise somewhere when you look at the brake options. A 12.2 kit with narrow rotors and smaller NDL calipers will do just fine for many folks, others might want to consider 13" x 1.25" rotors and full size sixes.....

Spacers are up to you. Of course I'd rather keep it to a minimum to lessen bearing load and keep wheels hub centric too. Don't overlook the studs if you choose this route.


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