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Originally posted by PackRat:
"Only a liberal douche would dismiss conservatives as all ignorant, racist, etc."
Huh, not really sure where I painted that "all" brush, espeically where I don't believe it. Perhaps a little reading comprehension could possibly help you. I know, you're conservative and probably believe the school systems do not require any additional funding.
With that said, I cannot say I've met many (if any) liberal racists. That doesn't mean they aren't out there. However, much like most of "easily offended" are liberals, I'd say most of the "racists" are conservative. Hence my comment about "if the shoe fits..."
Originally posted by PackRat:
Want a tissue?
No, not at all. I would, however, like more constructive arguements out of you. Not the typical internet thug Name Calling that you seem to degrade to in any attack of your opinion. But, that might require you to put together an intelligent response, and could be asking too much of you.
Originally posted by PackRat:
If you don't like the way I post, perhaps coming into my thread to add your two cents was a bad idea?
LOL! I like how this is "your thread." Thought this was CEGs thread. Besides, what's stopped you from going into other people's threads (since they appear to have ownership now) and doing the exact same thing to them? Doesn't really matter who started the thread, now does it?
Also, not really sure how having and expressing an opinion is a bad idea. Although I'm sure you'd be happier to silence all those that disagree with you, similar to WWII maybe?
But back to the original question? How am I a douche? Or, did you simply misread my statement?
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Originally posted by zgendron:
Originally posted by PackRat:
"Only a liberal douche would dismiss conservatives as all ignorant, racist, etc."
Huh, not really sure where I painted that "all" brush, espeically where I don't believe it. Perhaps a little reading comprehension could possibly help you. I know, you're conservative and probably believe the school systems do not require any additional funding.
With that said, I cannot say I've met many (if any) liberal racists. That doesn't mean they aren't out there. However, much like most of "easily offended" are liberals, I'd say most of the "racists" are conservative. Hence my comment about "if the shoe fits..."
Since you couldn't leave well enough alone.
The way liberals treat minorities is racist. Liberals only care about Blacks, Mexicans, etc. when it comes to elections. You feed us a line about how you understand how hard it is for us to succeed, throw a few dollars at us by way of social services and food stamps, but don't do a damn thing constructive to help us. Then you turn around and accuse conservatives of racism if they dare suggest that we minorities should do such things as do for ourselves and clean up our own communities. You've got the minority communities so dependent on social programs and welfare that they can't think for themselves. You've managed to trade one way to keep minorities down for another. Congrats, you suceeded where the segregationists failed. Thank God the majority of this country saw through the smoke screen you tried to pass off as President, with his grandios "plan" that nobody could figure out.
You want to see who's the real racists in this country? Look in the mirror while you hold up your DNC membership card.
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But back to the original question? How am I a douche? Or, did you simply misread my statement?
Yeah you're a douche, all you liberals are douches. All you do is cover up societies problems with a nice smell, you don't solve them.
So you take your liberal opinions and ideals and shove them where the sun doesn't shine, I don't like being made a second class citizen just so liberals can have an agenda.
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Originally posted by PackRat:
throw a few dollars at us by way of social services and food stamps, but don't do a damn thing constructive to help us.
What kind of help do you need? My heart is bleeding. 
Originally posted by PackRat:
Then you turn around and accuse conservatives of racism if they dare suggest that we minorities should do such things as do for ourselves and clean up our own communities.
I'm confused, I thought you said you needed help? 
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You've got the minority communities so dependent on social programs and welfare that they can't think for themselves ..
You're right, you're a perfect example! 
Are you through whining? Now go get a job.
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I have a job dingleberry.
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Originally posted by PackRat:
If you don't like the way I post, perhaps coming into my thread to add your two cents was a bad idea?
Oh, so it is only ok when someone agree's with you in your threads. You must have no friends where you live in dusty ol' Las Cruces, New Mexico.
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Originally posted by PackRat:
Yeah you're a douche, all you liberals are douches. All you do is cover up societies problems with a nice smell, you don't solve them.
You know whether he is a douche or not has nothing to do with his argument. I would suggest you stick to arguing the issue and not end up calling people names. Usually people use ad ad hominem (means "against the person", i.e. name calling, you should look it up) attacks when they have nothing to back their arguments up with; how secure are you in your beliefs?
Originally posted by JaTo:
Originally posted by daenku32:
"Liberal Jews and non-Jews claim that "Merry Christmas" offends Jews and other non-Christians. That 90 percent of Americans celebrate Christmas is of no importance to the easily offended. "
So, if a Jew or non-Jew is not offended, it means they are not Liberal?
No, it just means that additional clarification and differentiation is needed here.
Some liberals are quite resilient and stolid in their beliefs and don't feel the need to champion every cause that unthinking myopia allows others of their ilk to constantly trip over. Dare I say they are grounded and thoughtful in their philosophy and have defendable positions that don't default to knee-jerk slogans and bumper-sticker mentalities.
The "other" liberals that I speak of are liberals that carry the "offend me" albatross around their neck are the "Perpetual Panties in a Twist" liberals. It's almost a religion unto itself these days and is damn-well near a plague in that emotion seems to serve as a substitute as careful and subjective thought...
Don't let the fact escape you that there exists a right-wing element that shows the same knee-jerk reaction towards anything they consider "immoral" (i.e., Sesame Street animals talking being demonic). It's the flip-side of this philosophical coin as emotion combined with convictions allow a very similar "emotional" response that seems to have little backing besides feelings and a mantra that has been shoved down their throats. This certainly doens't rule them out as being conservative, though.
To wrap this little discourse up, I do seem to run into FAR more unthinking, knee-jerk liberals than conservatives, though.
Jato I think this is the first time I have agreed with you on a politics issue. I think there are about an equal number of knee-jerk people in the US.
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Actually, Las Cruces is in the higher elevations of New Mexico and far from being "dusty". It's a touch dry, but one of the nicer places to live in NM.
Anyway, back to regular programming...
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Wow, we almost got a competent opinion out of you without resorting to that classic E-thug approach that you use so well. Almost... Originally posted by Packrat:
Since you couldn't leave well enough alone.
Was this a threat? Comeon. I've been looking for you to actually engage in a semi-educated argument for about an hour now. This is exactly what I was looking for. So, not really sure what the threat is all about.
Originally posted by Packrat:
The way liberals treat minorities is racist. Liberals only care about Blacks, Mexicans, etc. when it comes to elections.
You truly believe this, don't you? That's just sad. Many of the "liberals" I know regularly volunteer their time to help others, many are teachers, many donate much more than just their money (in addition to taxes). When it comes to politics, you could use this argument for either side. Really sad that this is your opinion of all liberals. When was the last time you tried to help someone less fortunate?
I agree that many of the benefits provided by the government do not help people in their situations, but only continue to extend the problem. However, I think you've gone ahead again and painted this broad brush (as you seem to enjoy doing) and grouped all liberals as evil. However, I wouldn't put all the "blame" on liberals for making the poor so dependent on these programs. I have heard very few suggestions from Republicans besides "cut the program."
Is the solution to just cut those programs and let those on it sink or swim? Hardly. Can you imagine the problems we would have then? We do need to devise a new program. Clearly the current program has problems. A program that can be implemented in conjunction with the current programs in place. To cut these programs without offering other solutions is completely asinine.
What efforts are conservatives doing to help people that can't help themselves? Clearly there are people out there that can't help themselves! Also, as long as there are laws and policies, there will always be loopholes, and people abusing those loophopes. The part I like the most is how when the wealthy abuse the system, I don't really hear conservatives bitching about all the tax dollars it is costing them. Guess what, it is! But, when the poor abuse social programs they sure are up in arms. Where do you think this country loses more money? Tax loophopes, or social programs? There is a reason social workers are paid very little, but tax law is a very lucritive business.
I see a possible answer in education. Our public education system is an absolute disgrass! If you haven't read it, I would highly recommend a book by Jonathan Kozol called "Savage Inequalities." Education is not the only answer, but strengthing our education process is a must! If we have any chance of allowing minorites an opportunity to help themselves, it must begin with education.
I won't get into the various programs that have been cut, and how they truly are disgrassful to see them let go, and who is suffering as a result. Hell, I'll even stick with programs that are ONLY affecting children.
In closing. You should know that I am absolutely not a democrat and stay very much independent to choose the canidate that I believe will be best for our country. Nor do I vote for someone simply to follow a party line. I, along with the majority of my colleages, simply refuse the sheep mentality that I've seen rampent among the current majority. Think for yourselves!
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Wow that is a open minded view! I don't suppose that conservatives have an agenda,noooooo.  Being a Dem and a "old" guy, I just don't understand why so many of our young people are so conservative ( not so when it comes to sex, drugs, violence, intolerance, etc)its just when it suits you I suppose. Its not that conservatives are stupid, just wrong! (for America as I've known it and historicly)...... Years ago I read that if Facism raised its ugly head here it would be called Americanism, look around you.
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Originally posted by PackRat:
I have a job dingleberry.
How old are you? Just curious on how successful in life you are with your highly respectable job.
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