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#1120031 12/03/04 02:54 PM
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My question is who does the teaching? I'd like the 23 Florida teacher recently accused of banging her 14 year old student.


TAMPA, Fla. (AP) June 30, 2004 â?? A 23-year-old middle-school teacher was charged with having sex with a 14-year-old student in a classroom, at her apartment and, once, in a vehicle while the teen's 15-year-old cousin drove.

Detectives said that the cousins provided matching statements incriminating Debra Beasley Lafave and that the 14-year-old described Lafave's apartment and her tattoos and birthmarks.

Lafave, who teaches reading in the Tampa suburb of Temple Terrace, was arrested there last week on lewd and lascivious battery charges, accused of having sex with the teen earlier this month at her apartment and in a portable classroom at Greco Middle School.

She was out on bond on those charges when she turned herself in Monday in Marion County, about 80 miles north of Tampa, where the cousin lives. There, she is charged with lewd and lascivious battery and exhibition. She was released Monday on $25,000 bail.

Her lawyer, John Fitzgibbons, said he was not ready to respond to the allegations. "There is a presumption of innocence in this country," he said.

The teen told investigators that he and Lafave got to know each other during a class trip last month, and their sexual relationship began June 3.

The boy told detectives that Lafave told him that her months-old marriage was in trouble and that she was attracted to him because having sex with him was not allowed.

Lafave, who has worked with the Hillsborough County school system for two years, has been placed on administrative duty and could be suspended without pay at the next school board meeting, officials said.

In Marion County, authorities say Lafave had sex with the student in the back of her sport utility vehicle while the cousin drove them around the Ocala area. "


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somehow i doubt that any boy would miss her class


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The way I was taught was the following- don't have sex until you're damn well good and ready. Abstinence was the ONLY way to be 100% sure that you were not going to get anyone pregnant or get any diseases. But if you're going to be stupid and have sex, at least be smart about it. Use condoms at least.

This was all from a public high school edumacation. I actually had a teacher freshman year that REFUSED to teach any form of sex ed, so they brought in one of the people from the clinic to teach us all the possible "outcomes" of having sex.

Teaching abstinence only is going to drive kids to have sex. Call it wanting the forbidden if you want, but, that's the truth. Telling kids that it's stupid (they're not emotionally equipped for it) and showing them ways to be smart about it is likely to at least prevent any unwanted pregnancies or diseases. Hell, start showing pictures of VD having affected people, and THAT will scare the sex drive right out of them.


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DAAMMNNN! I have to wonder how anyone found out about that teacher and her pupil... God knows if I was the 14 year old I wouldn't tell anyone for fear of the relationship ending


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Originally posted by Viss1:
Davo, I'm still curious what Bush's motive is for doing this, if it's not morality or religion.



I must have answered this question a half-dozen times or so already. Could it be he supports abstinence because it's the only way to prevent pregnancy and STDs?? I don't see anything religious or moral about that.

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Originally posted by bigMoneyRacing:
My question is who does the teaching? I'd like the 23 Florida teacher recently accused of banging her 14 year old student.



Someone tell me there isn't a single male who has gone through school that didn't have the fantasy that this kid had come true.

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freshman year algebra.....ms. alverez. no guy ever missed her class. she even made cookies for us. then she got married and second semester we had some woman who must have been the far side of 1000 years old.


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Originally posted by Davo:
Could it be he supports abstinence because it's the only way to prevent pregnancy and STDs?? I don't see anything religious or moral about that.



And the exclusion-of-everything-else part?


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Like I've also said in this thread, you can't really make a point with teaching abstinence if you hand out condoms at the end of the lesson, can you?

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To which I responded to, so I guess we're just going to continue to ignore each others' responses from here on in


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