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In theory the "let parents teach kids about sex" idea sounds good, but a lot of (maybe even most) parents won't talk about it, then you're left with kids not being taught anything. If you can't see the danger for society in that...
What I find even funnier is that Bush mandated that a good portion of his African AIDS Emergency Fund go to abstinence only programs; even to the point of banning handing out condoms and condom information. Sorry, but you're not going to convince a buncha people in 3rd world countries to stop fukcing.
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I know the advice my parents gave me, hold out, if i am going to do it anyway, get Condoms. My friend's mom went and bought her son Condoms, to ensure he was doing it safely... 
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Utah = U L T R A conservative... teen pregnancy rate is not the lowest in the states (nowhere near if I'm not mistaken). So, are we to assume these parents are not teaching their kids? Are we to assume the schools are not teaching? I don't know. What I do know is this: SOMEONE better step up and stop passing the buck.  If the schools think parents aren't doing their jobs, STEP UP! If the parents think they should be doing the job, STEP UP! P.S. $10 says Bush had premarital sex. 
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Originally posted by RTStabler51:
I think the greater issue is that sexual education wouldn't be so necassary if sex wasn't flashed in front of children in every media available. Now, don't get me wrong, I like me some women, but sometimes you have to ask yourself is that really needed. Yes, it is 100% the parents responsibility to teach their children morals and monitor what they watch on TV. But, if our society didn't promote sexual promiscutity (sp?) then most likely we wouldn't need SEX education. I remember just 10 years ago in high school, I don't remember my sex ed class being so detailed (I don't know what today's is like, I can only assume).
With that said, back to work.
The only problem with that idea, is that countries that have more open views about sex (Western Europe for example) have much much lower teen pregnancy rates.
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Originally posted by 18psi2300:
In theory the "let parents teach kids about sex" idea sounds good, but a lot of (maybe even most) parents won't talk about it, then you're left with kids not being taught anything. If you can't see the danger for society in that...
Wow, I wonder what society did before sex education. It has been taught for a blink of the human history eye. I could be dumb, but I don't think our society crumbled or was endangered when people weren't learning everything about sex.
Originally posted by 18psi2300:
What I find even funnier is that Bush mandated that a good portion of his African AIDS Emergency Fund go to abstinence only programs; even to the point of banning handing out condoms and condom information. Sorry, but you're not going to convince a buncha people in 3rd world countries to stop fukcing.
Maybe that is the best policy, since abstinence is the only way to prevent STDs.  Don't you think it's better to teach a policy that leads to prevention than give the impression that using condoms prevents STDs??
Third World countries can either choose death or sex, and right now it looks like they're choosing death.
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Originally posted by Davo:
Actually, a picture of Henry Waxman serves as a good abstinence-only persuasion by itself!
This guy looks miserable!
P.S. ... and as far as the topic goes - total crap if ya ask me, stupid ideas developed by stupid dull people trying to justify their payrolls by coming up with one stupidity after another.
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Originally posted by Davo:
Third World countries can either choose death or sex, and right now it looks like they're choosing death.
Looks to me like they are choosing death and sex.
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Originally posted by R_G:
Originally posted by Davo:
Actually, a picture of Henry Waxman serves as a good abstinence-only persuasion by itself!
This guy looks miserable!
Bwahahahaha! What a FUGLY guy! I feel bad for him! Must be hard to pick up chicks with that huge ugly nose!
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Originally posted by Davo:
Maybe that is the best policy, since abstinence is the only way to prevent STDs. Don't you think it's better to teach a policy that leads to prevention than give the impression that using condoms prevents STDs??
Teaching abstinence is like preaching communism...it looks really good on paper, but it doesn't work.
Realisticly we have to just admit to ourselves that our kids will have sex if they want to. So, we should teach them the consequences of having unprotected sex, protected sex, and abstaining. They'll make their own choices; all we can hope for is that we've informed them and that they make good choices.
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Originally posted by Derk2000:
Realisticly we have to just admit to ourselves that our kids will have sex if they want to.
I was wondering how long it would take someone to make the 'They're going to do it anyways' argument. They're going to smoke pot, tobacco, and drink anyways, but I don't see us handing out pipes, papers, and beer glasses in school.
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