Im going to go look at these again today. Im trying to figure out a good used car to look at too. I have an i30/max already. Its great but I can't get two. I looked at volvo s80 s but the $$$ repair costs and reliability scare me away. Saab 9-5 are pretty good but I haven't heard much about them, probably drive one of those this weekend. WRXs seem to run around 18 around here. Not much below this price.