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Cause we know, that if roles were reversed the insurgent would have helped the wounded Marine...

Originally posted by JaTo:

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Again, it's a brutal and unsettling practice, but when has modern war realistically been a gentry engagement of sensibilities, ethics and strict rules? Out of all the reasonable alternatives, a quick shot to the head may be the only safe choice.

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FWIW here is how the cameraman viewed the situation.

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The Marine then abruptly turns away and strides away, right past the fifth wounded insurgent lying next to a column. He is very much alive and peering from his blanket. He is moving, even trying to talk. But for some reason, it seems he did not pose the same apparent "danger" as the other man -- though he may have been more capable of hiding a weapon or explosive beneath his blanket...


At that point the Marine who fired the shot became aware that I was in the room. He came up to me and said, "I didn't know sir-I didn't know." The anger that seemed present just moments before turned to fear and dread.

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After reading that, it seems that the Marine's fear and concern after the shooting seem to be pretty damning in this case.

If he's skipping over folks that are moving and had blankets over them, then he's most likely in a load of s**t over this and rightfully so.

this is a very tough situation, we can go by the facts and what is said....but none of us truly know what its like unless you have been in the same situation. when you are under stress and fearing for your life, anything can happen. truly, these people over here dont give a [censored] what we are doin for them. even the interpretors on our FOB said they shoulda had someone like sudaam to rule for that was the only way they seem to understand. like they say, how do you kill a man who has no fear........ these people have no fear for what they do or what can happen to them or their famillies (the insurgents i should say). to show this point, on our trip up north....a man pulled to the side of the road with his family in the vehicle to set an IED. now, these IEDs are becoming more and more sophisticated. as we learn how to spot them or disable them before we reach them, they learn new ways to hide them or detonate them. most of them being 155 rounds (which surely are no joke). one case goes to show that back in 2001 (and there is a video on this) insurgents recorded themselves arming and planting an old beat up vehicle on the side of the road with a few 155 rounds in the back, ran the wires to their hidding spot and waitted for the US convoy to approach, as it did a 113 in the front and a 5 ton behind that were blown straight off the road into dust. being that these insurgents are getting so much heat down south, they are now moving north. lately we have been getting a lot of IEDs and mortar attacks on our convoys. so when you think about what the situation is, he may have been right or wrong, but the pressure can be unbearable. we are so close to goin home now, and all of the sudden, all of this $hit is popping up. its such a shame to see the soldiers make it this far and then encoutner a life threatening situation, as every day can be. just in the past few weeks, we had a few soldiers sent home for thier injuries. (this was on the news....so its nothin new) but they were just on their everyday patrol, but this day was different, 3 RPGs came soaring into their bradley, passing through the driver and gunners leg, permanelty disabling them . (if i may be rambling on now..i do apologize) okay, with that all said, no one can really picture what was goin on in that soldiers head at the time. its not very pleasant anymore any where around here once you roll outside that front gate of the FOB. i guess, if it was known to be an insurgent, wounded or not.............its better off hes dead. i could care less how you take care of him. but as for how many there are, 1 less is always good .

just my 2 cents.......

Why does there need to be a petition for something that the people signing it know very little about?
Let the marines handle it. Doesn't anyone trust them to look at the facts objectively?
I would be very disapointed if the decision to file charges was swayed by a petition drive.

i wouldnt trust them too much. its easy to get screwed in the millitary. if it at all makes the unit or command look bad in anyway, even if you were in the right. they will cover their a$$ before helping you out. all dependin on the situation.

Agree with SGGOODE. Just like people making conclusions after seeing the incident on TV, I do not think it is appropriate to sign petitions one way or the other as if we had some special knowlege of the situation. The armed forces will investigate and must be the ones to determine guilt or innocense. They will be aware of extenuating circumstances better than anyone. While definately not perfect, military investigations and courts are generally straightforeward and fair. Would also mention that I am VERY GLAD that Bush held firm on no international courts for US soldiers.