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#1112889 11/23/04 04:18 AM
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I was driving back to Toronto from Montreal last week. I was in the left lane, and ahead of me were two trucks (the 18-wheeler type, not the pickup type), one in the left lane overtaking one in the right lane . As I approached the truck in the right lane, a chunk of ice maybe two feet by 8 inches flew off the top, headed for my face. I swerved hard to avoid it, and the back spun around, and I went through the guard rail on the right side of the road backwards (but somehow ended up facing forwards). Spinning out at around 100km/h on the 401 heading backwards for a guardrail was definitely one of those "I could be about to die" moments. But I walked away from the accident without a scratch, probably because I went through the guardrail backwards, and the seat cushioned me from the impact (as opposed to being thrown into the seat belt or air bag).

Insurance is still debating whether it will be an "at fault" accident or "not at fault". Since the driver of the truck didn't stop, it's classified as a one-car accident, and they want "proof" I swerved to avoid ice flying towards my windshield. So they're waiting for the police report (although he didn't see anything because he arrived about 15 minutes after the crash) and testimony from a witness that had stopped. My photos of the ice fragments weren't enough. (I was lucky I even had my camera on me.)

Unfortunately, the SVT was a write-off. It's in Cornwall now at a collision centre. If anyone is interested in an SVT motor (it was a '99 with 132K) that's in great condition. The tranny was starting to grind going into 3rd, so that's probably not worth much. The exhaust might be okay, minus the tips. The car was also equipped with KVR rotors and pads, which have not yet been resurfaced.

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What was left of the ice by the time I took a shot of it:

It's hard to see in the photo, but up close it looked like it was about 3/4" thick.




Anyways, now I need some advice. Since I'm not in a position to buy either of the cars I planned to buy one day when I had money (Mazda 6 or Legacy GT) the only car I like in the price range is another SVT. I'm looking at one now but it has a few problems, and I need some advice on how much it might cost to fix them.

-The car is a 98.5 with 192K kilometers and the original clutch. That in itself doesn't bother me, but I test drove it and the friction point for the clutch is right above the floor. Besides making it difficult to make quick shifts, what else could this mean? Could the solution be to just bleed the clutch? How much is it for a clutch job on an SVT?

-The secondaries are stuck either open or closed. When I drove it there wasn't much zip (nothing like my SVT), and no change in acceleration at ~3750 RPM where the secondaries should be opening. It apparently hasn't been driven much for the past 4 months or so. The most likely scenario is that it's just seized up, but worst-case scenario if the servo motor that opens and closes the secondaries is shot, how much would it cost to replace that assembly? And is that even the worst-case scenario? Could there be a bigger problem?

-Some missing paint/rust on the trunk lid, hood, and rear wheel wells. It appears to be surface rust, but the paint is completely missing in spots..could be from stone chips? A friend is telling me that even if I get this patched up, I'll probably have to spend like $300-$500 to refinish it every year it because it's like a cancer and will come back every year. Is that true?

-Leak(s) in trunk. Both the left and right of the trunk (on either side of the spare tire well) were wet. This probably means there's a leak on both the left and right side. I've done a search and it looks like I might have to remove the tail lights and reseal the grommets. I guess not a really big concern, but still, a problem. I noticed a significant amount of rust in the spare wheel well too.

Other than that stuff, the car seems to be in good shape. The transmission feels tight, didn't notice any other odd noises. Any advice would be appreciated.


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Dayum! Glad you are ok, this sounds cliche, but it's what's most important.

Trunk leak should be an easy fix, as you've already searched old posts. I spent about an hour on it and just siliconed all the possible culprits (side trunk vents, tailights, my trunk rubber seal because it'd come off before), no problems since - and it was a real sieve before.

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Glad you're alright. The pictures look bad but it doesnt look like it is bent they are righting it off? When Alex wrote his off you could definately see the twist in the frame. Just wondering is all. Pictures don't always get the whole picture.

As for an original clutch with 192,k on it my original about 280 K on it. but you don't know how it was driven. Bleeding it could be the solution especially if it has never been done.

Glad to hear your okay. Now would everyone stop doing this to their vehicles already.


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Wow, That sucks. Another for the stats though. Out of all the wrecked Contours I only recall one person being seriously injured.

*vulture thought* The rims still look good for the most part.

As for the other SVT. Keep looking before settling for just this one. There are usually a few for sale at any point in the auto trader. At least somewhere in Ontario. However if you can land that one for a decent price and feel comfortable making some repairs. Then that may be the car for you. However make sure it is a Sticky or broken IMRC vs failing precats or Main cat. That would be a rather costly repair and one that may bargin a far better price in your favour. (Opting for the mystery mod would be a cheap solution)Otherwise how does the car ar to have been taken care of. What kind of price are they asking. These things may be big factors.

Again sorry about your accident. Your story further reminds me of how much I hate the insurance companies. I mean you pay for it to be there but when it comes down to it they are of course there for themselves.


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Thanks for the input everyone.

Should I get it checked out by a dealer before I buy, in addition to having it certified? (Although after having been a member of this board for a while I don't know if I'd trust the dealer's diagnosis for much anyways.)

Originally posted by lauraq:
The pictures look bad but it doesnt look like it is bent they are righting it off? When Alex wrote his off you could definately see the twist in the frame.




Here's another pic. The rocker panel and centre post was bent. I thought that meant the frame was bent but the collision guy said that that was actually fixable; they'd just cut that section out of another contour and weld it into place. He said the real problem was the bumpers; Ford wanted $1700 for the rear and $1000 for the front.


Originally posted by mbb41:
However make sure it is a Sticky or broken IMRC vs failing precats or Main cat.




How could I do that? Is there some way other than ripping them open to check? If it was failing precats or main cat, shouldn't I still feel a change when the secondaries open? I guess the REAL worst-case scenario would be that the butterfly ports for the secondaries AND the pre-cats are going...

I guess I'd just like to apologize to all SVT owners (and regular Contour owners) who may find their insurance going up because the stats on the Contour just got worse...

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If you do decide to fix it, I have an SVT front in Silver with a small crack in the front that I'd part with cheap.

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Originally posted by LegacySHO:

I guess I'd just like to apologize to all SVT owners (and regular Contour owners) who may find their insurance going up because the stats on the Contour just got worse...




My refference to the Stats on the Tour were about how well they crash. Most people fair well. The fact that you cracked up yours probably would have no bearing on the rates. Most of the rates are determined by people whom do statistics for a living. They follow probabilty coupled with a bunch of varibles and come up with what the odds are that these cars will be in accidents and by what age group so on and so on.

As for a sticky IMRC. With the car in neutrel turn it on and have someone rev the engine quickly to over 4000 rpm. The linkage should move. If you can determine that it is moving and doing so regularly. (sometimes they flake out intermitently.) Then it is time to look at the Precats. Is the
Tour located in TO. Maybe one of us can help you test drive/look for bugs.


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Oh man!
That looks soooo ugly. Don't worry bout the insurance rates. Just be happy that the car is so stout that you survived ok.
Now, should you be yanking the exhaust out from under it, please do keep me in mind.....
Good luck!
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Whoa man sorry to hear about your accident, but i'm glad you're OK. If you get the car fixed and the insurance company declared the car totalled you MIGHT have trouble getting insurance on the car ( my cousin was looking into getting a rebuilt truck), or you could always get another CSVT

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Damn I'm sorry to hear about the accident but happy that you are ok. Now I'm wishing I ahd the money to buy that SVT motor and tranny. Good luck with the insurance and finding another SVT

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